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Old 06-21-2014, 07:10 AM   #1
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Default A4 has no power, shuttering down the road, low fuel pressure rail code, ECM lights up

It's been a few days since this started, it's getting progressively worse, it seems to have trouble selecting a gear or staying in the wrong gear too long. I don't really know where to start with this. This is extremely distressing to me, I don't even dare to take it out for a drive at this point. Help!
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:07 PM   #2
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I'm sorry it's not the ECM it's the EPC. I also tried unplugging the MAF sensor it just made my idle rougher otherwise no difference.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:16 PM   #3
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So all day today on three different start/drives it's just been the CEL and the cars gone fine. I'm betting the filter on the pump on the tank is filthy and unable to provide enough gas to the hpfp under load causing the car to go into limp mode. I find out tomorrow at the dealership. Fingers crossed they will just pull it and clean it and thats the only problem.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:15 AM   #4
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When you have the EPC light come on it usually means there's something going on with the computer. Electronic Program Control. Get yourself a cheap ebay cable that'll work with a b7 A4 and scan for codes.(not endorsing non vagcom cables)
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The problem is so bad now I brought it to Audi for diagnostic and they narrowed it down to G247 low pressure sensor or hpfp. I put the codes on the other thread. What do you think?
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The problem is so bad now I brought it to Audi for diagnostic and they narrowed it down to G247 low pressure sensor or hpfp. I put the codes on the other thread. What do you think?
All your codes point to the low pressure side and the circuit being disconnected on the sensor g247.

Knowing Audi, they're taking the cheapest first approach and if it doesn't fix, their going to look at the low pressure fuel pump. I believe you already checked the fuel filter?

If it was high pressure related you might've seen P2293 and a remark on the N276 sensor as one.

I don't think it's your high side just by the codes you gave. What is disconcerting is the EPC light. It may be associated with limp mode being triggered I don't know. Just out of curiosity, were your PRNDS on the dash flashing at any point?
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No flashing.
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We pulled the G247 off and used one from another car to trouble shoot and nothing changed. The EPC would go on when the car went into limp mode, you're right, and now it's on and in limp mode all the time. It is also starting progressively harder when cold.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:08 AM   #9
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Cam follower checked recently? Do you drive with a empty tank a lot?
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Cam follower looks brand new and is about 2,000 miles old. I never drive on an empty tank but I did recently get gas at a Gulf and thats about the time it started happening. When we changed the fuel filter the gas looked pretty dirty. My mechanic thought it was odd but wasn't really concerned because there was no water in it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:55 AM   #11
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The gas wouldn't be doing this. Based on all of what you've given It sounds like your low pressure fuel pump. If it's on the way out it'll get worse. Your car isn't going to explode or anything like that. A new pump will run you under 250 and requires a little work, but very doable. There's diys all over the Web. My assumption is if it's not the lpfp then it's gotta be control module or electrical related. Keep us posted.
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Yeah lpfp is what my gut says but I brought it to Audi for a diagnostic and after 2 hours they narrowed it down to hpfp or G247.
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Yeah lpfp is what my gut says but I brought it to Audi for a diagnostic and after 2 hours they narrowed it down to hpfp or G247.
Always remember just because they're Audi doesn't necessarily mean they're correct. After paying a $190 diagnostic after stalling dozens of times. I was quoted a $3000 transmission job as the most likely repair. I did my own research for three months, new nothing about these cars. I literally trained myself to narrowing it down to $15 dollar relay. Having no tools or garage at the time I towed it to an inde mech and told him what I needed. Fixed for $150, but he ended up breaking my ECU Covers. This is just one incidence I've had with Audi. The best thing is to know your car. Good luck and report back to us so future Audi owners can see this!
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Right on, thank you. I'm going back to my first garage in two days I'm going to give them the paperwork from Audi but also tell them my gut feeling and see where we go from there. I'll report back then.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:19 PM   #15
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It turned out to be the hpfp. I'm glad I went to Audi for a diagnostic because the garage I went where I had the used car dealer warrant had already ruled it out. Now I'm hoping I can bring the old pump back to Audi and have them refund some of my diagnostic and put a new hpfp in instead of the used good as new one that the used car dealer put in. Lesson learned I will pay the money and go to Audi for anything that requires thought.
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