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Old 07-08-2014, 02:38 PM   #1
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Thank you for taking the time to look at this. I am looking into buying a 2009-2010 Audi A4 Quattro 2.0T Prestige and had a few questions. I test drove a 2009 A4 2.0T Prestige yesterday and had three main complaints.

Firstly, the steering wheel was manually adjusted and tilt only. Due to my height (6'5") to sit comfortably I needed the seat back all the way. Without being able to adjust the steering wheel telescopically I found that I had to adjust the seat forward to get in a good driving position. My research seems to show that the car should have an electronically adjusted steering wheel with both telescoping and tilt. Hopefully someone can shed some light on why this particular one did not.

Secondly, I prefer my car to have more prominent side bolsters which I found absent in the A4 I drove. I assume that this would not be an issue in an A4 with the S-Line package but I want to make sure that I won't lose some of the comfort features such as the adjustable lumbar and heated seats if I were to purchase one with the aforementioned package.

Thirdly and finally, the car had a considerable amount of road noise and vibration when driving at highway speeds. To be honest it felt as if I were sitting on a sander there was so much vibration. The noise was also quite annoying, though the fantastic Bang and Olufsen sound system did help to ease the annoyance factor.

Thank you very much for an input you can provide.
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The steering wheel is not electric, but does tilt and telescope. At least my '11 does, and I think even my '98 B5 did. You get taller bolsters with the sports seats, which come as part of the sports package, which comes as part of the s-line package. You don't lose any adjustments, in fact you gain some: the front bottom cushion will adjust forward/back for longer/shorter thigh support. Can't help with the road noise/vibration, I would suspect that to be an issue more of the wheels/tires than anything else. Though I will say if you are shopping for an automatic, an '11 or newer will have lower highway noise, as it comes with an 8sp auto (vs. 6sp in previous years) which keeps the engine RPMs much lower at highway speeds.
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The '09's had a fair amount of trouble with vibration at highway speeds - most of this was attributed to the control arms, which were redesigned in the 2010 model. There are threads on here that talk about this and Audi was replacing the control arms if needed. The regular seats are lousy for long trips - poor support and get more uncomfortable as the miles grow. The sport seats are significantly better. Of course, the oil consumption issue in '09 and '10 is one that anyone needs to take into account when buying one of these cars.
I had an '09 Premium Plus for 1.5 years and I would not wish it on anyone - an absolute non-stop headache. My best guess is that a Prestige would be only that much worse. Check Consumer Reports - a lot of black marks.
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The '09's had a fair amount of trouble with vibration at highway speeds - most of this was attributed to the control arms, which were redesigned in the 2010 model. There are threads on here that talk about this and Audi was replacing the control arms if needed. The regular seats are lousy for long trips - poor support and get more uncomfortable as the miles grow. The sport seats are significantly better. Of course, the oil consumption issue in '09 and '10 is one that anyone needs to take into account when buying one of these cars.
I had an '09 Premium Plus for 1.5 years and I would not wish it on anyone - an absolute non-stop headache. My best guess is that a Prestige would be only that much worse. Check Consumer Reports - a lot of black marks.
Thanks for replying! So if I were to go for a 2011 would the oil consumption issue and vibration likely be more or less solved?
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I haven't heard anything about "vibration" issues, but the oil consumption problem is clearly not resolved.

The Sport pkg yields sport seats, I think the S Line trim does too.
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I haven't heard anything about "vibration" issues, but the oil consumption problem is clearly not resolved.

The Sport pkg yields sport seats, I think the S Line trim does too.
So even if I were to buy a 2011 it would still eat oil? That's unfortunate.
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Not all of them consume oil. Some may and some may have had the Phase 1 and the Phase 2 repairs.
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Okay, I'm new to audis, could you post a link with information about this's issue?
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Here's a good place to start:

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=2822386


Phase 1 is basically changing a seal on the crankshaft, changing the "pcv" vavle and re-programming the ECU.

Phase 2 is far more invasive including replacement of pistons and rings, IIRC.

Phase 3 replace long block

My '11 car consumes a fair amount of oil. I really should take it in for the low-level repair. That appears to correct this oil consumption issue for many.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:39 AM   #11
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My car is as smooth as silk on the highway. It had a vibration issue once, but that was attributed to out-of-round Continental DWS tires.

My car does use oil, however. About a quart every 1,800 to 2k miles. Dealer says that is within specs and won't do anything about it. At about $10 a quart of Castrol Synthetic, it can add up.
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Thanks for the great replies, I'm still a few months out from making a purchase but I'm strongly considering a 2011 A4 Quattro Prestige S-Line after reading through all of the comments. I'm thinking that the vibration was most likely unique to this car as most people say their cars ride smoothly. I was concerned because the salesman said that this was common in A4s and audis in general.
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Great car. The 8-speed models are wonderful. I would exercise great caution because of your height. Take your time deciding. It is a somewhat small car. Maybe retrofit a custom driver's seat. I can't comment on headroom.
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My 2011 rides very smooth at high speeds and uses 1 quart of oil every 4500 miles with none of the phase fixes. My best advice is make sure you get the sport package (sport seats). My car has the titanium sports package with all the chrome blacked out and 19" 5 spoke speed line wheels. Gives the car a totally different look you may want to check out.
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I have a 2011 as well, Prestige Avant and S-line. No vibration whatsoever, smooth as silk on the highway. I think the vibration problem was only on the 2009 model where there was a TSB or recall for the A-arms. But as for any car to keep in mind, if you hit a big bump or pothole and dent the inside barrel of your rim, this could cause a vibration as well.

Mine eats a quart of oil about every 4-5000 miles, I was told that's very minimal for a turbocharged engine, so perhaps I'm one of the lucky ones. If you DIY your own oil changes, make sure the oil is VW/Audi 502.00 spec oil, I found they are either in 5w-40 or 0w-40 European formula, and never in the typical 5w-30 or 10w-30. The A4 is relatively easy to change oil, the hardest part is removing the dozen or so screws that hold the bottom splash cover. I've been taking it to the dealer the last few times for the oil changes because the difference in cost for them to change it rather than me doing it myself is very minimal.

I haven't had any major issues with the car since I purchased it new in 2011. The one annoying thing I didn't like at first, was the delay or lag from the gas pedal, I don't believe it was just turbo lag, so mostly a programming issue. Mine was reflashed when I took it in to the dealer for an oil change and it got better, but by no means instantaneous from foot to throttle. Also, at first startup in the morning, the idle could be a little shaky for the first 10-20 seconds, but as soon as you drive off, it smooths out. Other than that, it's been very reliable, just as reliable as my previous Hondas and Toyotas I had in the past...and this Audi was my first purchase of a German brand.

Mileage around town is not that great, maybe mid to high teens typically, it varies depending how much stop-and-go. But on the highway, I usually get anywhere from 25-28, and on long trips I've recorded as high as 33 mpg. Bear in mind this is with the wider S-line 19" wheels and max summer performance tires, which is detrimental in getting good mpg's.

Here's an Order Guide I found, hope this helps in your search on the options:
http://audiusanews.com/audi/assets/s...ingOptions.pdf


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ABS warning light on + Speedo not working , Can anybody help me with a wiring diagram please
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I have a 2009 and it uses only about 1/2 a quart of oil between oil changes, but I change the oil every 6 months...

It does not have any vibration issues.

I am 6'4" and I have a lot of headroom and the steering does tilt and telescope. I used to have a B5 and it was also roomy enough. I tried the new A3 because the reports were saying that it was as roomy as the B5, but it is not...

The Q3 is also roomy enough in the front, I might consider it for my next car if they ever decide to sell it with a proper motor and transmission !
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