Dave W

I don't think there will be. This is all about ensuring Audi's compliance with US emission regulations.

Donkihad

You think the government will give Audi a pass on all the A4s that were sold from March 2016 - November 2016? I am assuming all these cars (in December and January)were on hold and now require reprogramming because something was not "acceptable" to let them go without reprogramming.

I am not sure I follow your logic as to why there will not be a recall for our cars that were sold prior to this sales hold and therefore do not have the new programming everything going through the port now is getting.

My guess is that we will get a recall notice soon. The good news if what we are reading is true, it is just software. The bad news, if this is again emissions related, expect a decrease is MPGs post recall.

Dave W

You may well be right.

Could I ask you what you are reading or finding, other than what is on this forum? I'm unable to find any information about B9 emissions software problems anywhere.

To me, it just doesn't make good business sense. Why would Audi keep installing (let's call it defective) software at the production facilities, month after month, and then ship the vehicles, just to have the vehicles be (expensively) held up in port to have it altered?

Thanks.

dvrming

Exact same question I posted earlier. Please quote a source.

Some of us would love to be able to see if our A4s are worth waiting for.

cruiserchuck

Here is a link to an article from the New York Times that was published in November 2016, right about the time the sales hold started. It does not specifically refer to B9 emissions, but mentions that suspicious emissions software was found on gasoline engine Audis. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/b...ting.html?_r=0

sprior

The cheat in that article could only be related to automatic transmissions. Manuals are also on the sales hold, but maybe they're just caught in the same net.

But I think the long term solution is that we should all stop buying automatics and only buy manuals, therefore no possible issue with shifting programs.

Steven88

The class action lawsuit cited in this article targets vehicles equipped with ZF 8HP55 AL 551, which is a 8-speed transmission. It alleges that "During the CARB testing, the vehicle’s transmission control module sets shift points that produced compliant emission results under the calibration that Volkswagen referred to as the “dyno calibration.” The subject vehicles can detect static dynometer lab conditions and will operate in low power mode until exposed to actual road conditions". This mode would be active in the test when there is no steering input.

The A4 B9 uses a different S-tronic transmission, 7-speed (proprietary DL501-7Q), which doesn't fall under this lawsuit. But it seems there is a second lawsuit that also mentions the S-tronic transmission. Interestingly, it lists several Audi vehicles (p. 8), including the S4, but not the A4... Go figure.

It's always hard to tell whether these lawsuits have merit, but Audi's actions and lack of transparency definitely raise suspicion.

jsclarke99

For those of you with an A4 on order, I'll be with you in spirit. I hope this sales stop storm passes quickly. And good things do come to those that wait.

But as a couple of you asked- here's my ride for the next 3 years (scraped from the dealer I get mine today). Cardinal red metalic with sport pkg and 19" wheels. I've got it now, so it's my favorite. But I'd have never even looked had my dealer 1) even called or emailed back with I'm trying, or 2) said ok you'll get yours late but not later than x.

John

Q5 Bob

Very nice. The Cardinal Red looks good on the car.

I hope that someone from Audi as well as some dealers are looking at this thread.

VipinLJ

Wow. Lovely color. And she does look beautiful. You won't miss the A4 much. Have fun with MB for 3 yrs and then maybe, if you feel like it, look at an Audi. I wonder what the idiots at Audi are thinking, keeping mum and making people frustrated!!!