VipinLJ

The xenons still aren't all that bad.

I have halogens in my X3. Imagine. That sucks big time. The fog lamp is brighter than the headlamp since the fog lamp is LED. LOL

DirkM

I think I have read somewhere that the Xenon in the B9 have lower lumen output than the Xenon in the B8 had. If that's a concern I would definitely get the LED. While not a good comparison, the LED in my 2012 A6 C7 were a lot better than the Xenon in my 2010 Q5 and I think that the LED in my 2017 A4 are better than the LED in my 2012 A6 C7 were. I just wish they would offer Matrix LED in the US...

Stzomah

I had a loaner with the non-LED lights and I found it really noticeable. The LED High Beams are just stellar! As far as the Prem + package, if you are into audio you must have the B&O system. The S-line goodies also come with the P+. If you are negotiating % off the list, it does not cost the full $3,000. I would have been kicking myself for not getting it. Oh and the cold weather package, the heated steering wheel is fantastic here in Jersey!

gooberman

Thanks for the input guys. That is definitely steering me to the P+

I'm in Florida so no need for heated anything except for about 2 weeks a year. :-P However the wife loves the heated seats on her back so I was told they are a must. (hey she is giving me permission for this sweet car)

VipinLJ

Heated front seats are standard. Cold weather package gives you heated steering and heated rear seats.

cuke2u

Xenons that have a lower lumens than 2000 do not need washers, thus if the A4 with xenons fitted don't come with washers as standard then they are less bright. The same applies to LED's as well...

minmet

Gooberman, You probably already got enough information to persuade you to go with P+. Here is a quick discussion about Premium's Xenon lights which will further help you to make decision for P+:
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a4-...eling-2916849/
Looks, the HID head lights on Premium are not self leveling and will not do the turning illumination (corner lights light up the direction where you are turning to, very useful feature on P+ at night).

farmerjones

I've driven both, and own the LEDs while the loaner I had for a few weeks before my new car arrived had HIDs. HIDs are very, very good and you would be happy with their output. However the LEDs are betting (and noticeable) in a few aspects. With multiple reflectors/illumination points of origin with the LEDs a different, more accurate dispersion is accomplished. The high beans punch down the road further and in a more focused pattern. Also, the LEDs sweep closer to 90 degrees to the side of the car and illuminate the ditches more than the HIDs. Also, the color of the light is inherently different, with HIDs around 4300K and the LEDs 5000K (meaning the LEDs are closer to sunlight and make the light produced easier for your eyes to view and make them more effective for you to see in the dark). So yes, there are differences, but the HIDs are lightyears beyond halogen bulbs. I'd be more concerned that you will mentally be sad you didn't get the LEDs and it will always make you love the car a little less than if you had gotten what you really wanted...the cool-looking LEDs. Plus, should the HIDs ever need a bulb or ballast it's not really very cheap whereas the LEDs are for life.

jimmyja4

Yeah I made the mistake of getting the regular xenon's. They are perfectly fine and not bad at all. Still better than most cars on the road. But they are nowhere near as cool as the LEDs.

Dan in St. Louis

That's debatable. Higher color temperatures mean a "bluer" light, and I find that causes more glare and eyestrain.

7 Blue Light Facts: How Blue Light Is Both Bad and Good For You

https://www.thevisioncouncil.org/con...tal-eye-strain