Powder coating & Lowering Springs questions
#23
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Regarding half-assing it. Well. I didn't want coilovers since I'll probably return this and buy an S4 once the lease is over. That will have coilovers since I'll be keeping it.
#25
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My bad jorge hahah
I'm not bashing on coilovers, I had them when I was modding my B6 .. but I dont understand why people keep stating this, it really depends on the manufacturer and how they engineer the springs, I got 034 and it literally felt the same (and I'm a guy that notice very little things) in terms of ride quality. How I know? I put on about 1000km a week over the same roads, trust me.. I know all the pot holes and rough patches without even looking at the road. Couple guys here got ED and H&R are satisfied with their purchases. All these manufactures did their R&D using the B9 (at least 034 and ED for sure), so its designed specifically for the car. I dont see how that is 'half - assed', I mean its not like we took the angle grinder out and cut the springs...
with H&Rs (not bashing it, just stating what I've gathered), many of my friends have reported rougher rides, but again, the springs are also more aggressive than what they have for b9s.
Also ride quality is subjective, Vipin and I both said its the same doesnt mean you will feel the same. But to be honest, I had no idea how it feels before I order them as I'm one of the very few that ordered the springs before it was released. If youre lucky enough I'd suggest finding someone that has the type of spring youre interested in installed on their car and go for a joyride..that way you can know for sure..
I know a bunch of people that got coilovers and said the ride is too stiff for their daily commute but awesome on the track. It all depends on your application and what youre trying to achieve (Looks, track, comfort...etc) IMO.
btw I've put about 3000-3500km so far on the springs
with H&Rs (not bashing it, just stating what I've gathered), many of my friends have reported rougher rides, but again, the springs are also more aggressive than what they have for b9s.
Also ride quality is subjective, Vipin and I both said its the same doesnt mean you will feel the same. But to be honest, I had no idea how it feels before I order them as I'm one of the very few that ordered the springs before it was released. If youre lucky enough I'd suggest finding someone that has the type of spring youre interested in installed on their car and go for a joyride..that way you can know for sure..
I know a bunch of people that got coilovers and said the ride is too stiff for their daily commute but awesome on the track. It all depends on your application and what youre trying to achieve (Looks, track, comfort...etc) IMO.
btw I've put about 3000-3500km so far on the springs
Last edited by yb28; 03-27-2017 at 09:29 PM.
#26
I was just like you thinking why the hell am I messing around with the suspension of a brand new car and I'm going to ruin the ride quality. I just hated the look of my car it looked like it was on stilts. The ride quality only suffered when I went from 18s to 19s that smaller sidewall is what made the difference not the springs. I'm very happy with the look and the ride quality Its still very comfortable and quite. I could have saved money and time by getting the sport suspension but didn't know any better until I came upon these forums. Trust me it won't happen again.
Last edited by jorgecopa; 03-28-2017 at 07:20 PM.
#27
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Yup. I guess before, people used to say lowering springs are crap and coilovers are the best. But I think that time is long gone. Lowering springs obviously aren't better than coilovers but they have definitely closed the gap. And yes. I've read about people with coilovers complain about ride quality too.
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My bad jorge hahah
I'm not bashing on coilovers, I had them when I was modding my B6 .. but I dont understand why people keep stating this, it really depends on the manufacturer and how they engineer the springs, I got 034 and it literally felt the same (and I'm a guy that notice very little things) in terms of ride quality. How I know? I put on about 1000km a week over the same roads, trust me.. I know all the pot holes and rough patches without even looking at the road. Couple guys here got ED and H&R are satisfied with their purchases. All these manufactures did their R&D using the B9 (at least 034 and ED for sure), so its designed specifically for the car. I dont see how that is 'half - assed', I mean its not like we took the angle grinder out and cut the springs...
with H&Rs (not bashing it, just stating what I've gathered), many of my friends have reported rougher rides, but again, the springs are also more aggressive than what they have for b9s.
Also ride quality is subjective, Vipin and I both said its the same doesnt mean you will feel the same. But to be honest, I had no idea how it feels before I order them as I'm one of the very few that ordered the springs before it was released. If youre lucky enough I'd suggest finding someone that has the type of spring youre interested in installed on their car and go for a joyride..that way you can know for sure..
I know a bunch of people that got coilovers and said the ride is too stiff for their daily commute but awesome on the track. It all depends on your application and what youre trying to achieve (Looks, track, comfort...etc) IMO.
btw I've put about 3000-3500km so far on the springs
I'm not bashing on coilovers, I had them when I was modding my B6 .. but I dont understand why people keep stating this, it really depends on the manufacturer and how they engineer the springs, I got 034 and it literally felt the same (and I'm a guy that notice very little things) in terms of ride quality. How I know? I put on about 1000km a week over the same roads, trust me.. I know all the pot holes and rough patches without even looking at the road. Couple guys here got ED and H&R are satisfied with their purchases. All these manufactures did their R&D using the B9 (at least 034 and ED for sure), so its designed specifically for the car. I dont see how that is 'half - assed', I mean its not like we took the angle grinder out and cut the springs...
with H&Rs (not bashing it, just stating what I've gathered), many of my friends have reported rougher rides, but again, the springs are also more aggressive than what they have for b9s.
Also ride quality is subjective, Vipin and I both said its the same doesnt mean you will feel the same. But to be honest, I had no idea how it feels before I order them as I'm one of the very few that ordered the springs before it was released. If youre lucky enough I'd suggest finding someone that has the type of spring youre interested in installed on their car and go for a joyride..that way you can know for sure..
I know a bunch of people that got coilovers and said the ride is too stiff for their daily commute but awesome on the track. It all depends on your application and what youre trying to achieve (Looks, track, comfort...etc) IMO.
btw I've put about 3000-3500km so far on the springs
The reason I want to lower my car is for the look, not to mention my previous car was a 328i, so I'm used to low cars and how they handle.
I love how the B9 looks already, I just want it to look more aggressive with the lowered body.
#29
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So here's my whole problem with this, it seems like a few people have tried this but don't have a lot of miles on their car. And there is a lot of hearsay going on. Talk to a performance shop first, don't order springs online and tell people to install them. This sounds like a great way to screw up your new car.
i had h&r sport springs on both my b8.5 a4 and c7 a6 3.0. each car was driven for 40-50,000 miles with aftermarket springs on from almost day one. both cars had factory sport suspensions. Total amount of struts needing replacement over that 80-100,000 miles of driving on lowering springs with sport suspension = 0. hope this help a little bit. I cant speak for non sport suspension owners unfortunately.
#30
Just like it depends on the spring, it depends on the coilover. A lot of the coilovers without adjustable dampening ride pretty poorly in my experience, and usually add more noise due to the design. If you aren't opting for a PSS10 or something similar, personally I don't think you are doing yourself any favors versus a properly developed lowering spring. From my quick googling, it seems that there are many complaints about hr springs and the ride quality. Time will tell, but it seems 034 and emmanuele design have a better solution that will play nice with the factory shocks. It also makes sense (to me at least) that if the spring rates are much stiffer then the shocks will have a difficult time absorbing the rebound energy (leading to decreased life).