A6 vs 2015 Sonata
06-24-2014, 03:37 PM
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It becomes a question of what is important to people. I know as I get older and and see retirement in the future and start to determine how to alight with those goals as much as I love the A6 I am beginning to weigh what is truly important to me. I am not wealthy, but I make a decent living and have been fortunate to have driven numerous decent just in the last 10 years. But as I spend less time pleasure driving and most of my time commuting I am on the fence as to what my next ride will be. I will say I love my A6 as it impressives me and thrills me every day it is one awesome well designed and executed machine.
That said I get what I think the original poster was getting at, but will agree with others, the real comparison is with the Genesis as a loaded AWD Gensis runs about $12-$13K less than the A6 and does offer true full time 40/60 AWD. Hyundai did a good job copying the Audi play book, down to similar grille design. They are miles from being in the same league with power train and handling, but then that may not be important to some.
While I doubt Hyundai will hurt Audi sales much the real squeeze is Acura and Infiniti, mostly Acura. Lexus has distanced itself from the Asian pack, enough so that they are the only asian plate that qualifies for Audi conquest cash. Infiniti at least has a plan to step up their brand, but poor Acura is going to be seriously squeezed as they were the real luxury value brand and now Hyundai is out doing them with style and features.
That said I get what I think the original poster was getting at, but will agree with others, the real comparison is with the Genesis as a loaded AWD Gensis runs about $12-$13K less than the A6 and does offer true full time 40/60 AWD. Hyundai did a good job copying the Audi play book, down to similar grille design. They are miles from being in the same league with power train and handling, but then that may not be important to some.
While I doubt Hyundai will hurt Audi sales much the real squeeze is Acura and Infiniti, mostly Acura. Lexus has distanced itself from the Asian pack, enough so that they are the only asian plate that qualifies for Audi conquest cash. Infiniti at least has a plan to step up their brand, but poor Acura is going to be seriously squeezed as they were the real luxury value brand and now Hyundai is out doing them with style and features.
06-24-2014, 08:33 PM
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There are different kinds of "value". One is intrinsic value which is what the actual object costs, more or less, to build the car plus a profit for the seller. Then there is comparative value which is derived by the competitive brands and models to each other. Finally, there is subjective value which is placed solely by the one assessing the value. Brand loyalty, uniqueness, status, appearance and pride of ownership are examples. Those, generally, who decide to purchase an Audi tend to place more importance on the subjective over the other two. Much like they probably do in other purchase decisions. Any car will get you to your destination but some provide a superior sense of satisfaction while getting there. "It's not the destination but the journey".
It's kind of like comparing a 1lb burger to a 12oz filet mignon. Is the burger going to fill you more than the filet mignon? Sure. Is the burger going to cost less? Sure. But I'll take the experience and taste of the fine dining experience of a filet mignon any day of the week over a burger because it's so much more satisfying.
06-25-2014, 04:54 AM
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In other words, if you're really trying to align with reduced financial expenditures, in most cases the immediate car-related way to do that is to stop buying cars every 3-4 years. I know, I know, heresy!
Even my C5->C7 transition (after 14yrs) is NOT a financially good decision. For the price of the new S6 I could fix everything on the C5 and have the engine completely worked over into a monster... and probably still have several years of maintenance costs banked.
Just $0.02 from a conservative old guy
P.S. I was at a stoplight next to a Sonata yesterday. It had spinners. I was jealous ... NOT!
06-25-2014, 05:19 AM
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To me the KIA and Hyundai corporate stable mates are pretty much like Oldsmobile and Buick back in the 1950’s and 1960’s: one a bit more staid, the other a bit flashier. I would likely go for a KIA Cadenza or K900 if I had to buy Korean at this point. Of course, Korean can mean built in the USA these days.
06-25-2014, 05:32 AM
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When discussing "bang for the buck," I have found Audi's crap residuals make CPOs and other slightly used Audis to be great buys. The local Porsche dealership had a low mileage 2011 A8L, with the $98k window sticker still in the glove box, for $45k. The aftermarket extended warranty to cover the car until 2018 was $2k more. The car was spotless, cleaner than my A8 that only has 10k miles on it. I can't imagine how any Asian car can beat that value.
06-25-2014, 07:26 AM
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Well said, sir!
06-25-2014, 08:22 AM
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I just saw a Yahoo News article that says the Hyundai Genesis combines GPS and braking technology to slow the car down if drivers are speeding when they approach a speed camera. The speed camera detection system will also alert drivers 800 meters in advance and sound a signal if the car is speeding ahead of a camera. Fixed-speed cameras and average-speed cameras are detected by the car, but the system will obviously not work with mobile cameras or highway patrol cars.
06-25-2014, 10:05 AM
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