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Old 07-05-2014, 10:12 PM   #1
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We are considering purchasing a lower mileage 2012 CPO A6 3.0 Premium Plus or Prestige. I have never purchased an Audi before but had a CPO BMW where the warranty came in very handy. I am concerned the Audi CPO warranty does NOT cover the navigation/radio. One Audi dealer we visited mentioned something about "wrap" coverage which would include these items that are excluded in the CPO, thus mirroring the bumper to bumper warranty of the factory 4/50k. Has anyone had success negotiating this into their CPO deal? If not, how much additional should the wrap coverage be? (we are already paying a premium for the CPO, so I am hard pressed to pay much additional for these added benefits) Is this something we should be concerned about? The car has so much technology, especially in the MMI interface, I am truly worried if something major ends up breaking in the nav/radio. Thank you!

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The only "wrap" coverage that I can guess being referred to would be a third party extended warranty (i.e. Fidelity Warranty company). Note that there is no "bumper to bumper" coverage with any warranty - there are always exclusions, at the least, on any wear items, headlights, etc.. How many miles on the car? There should still be a balance of the original new car 4y/50K mileage remaining. IMO, purchasing a $2500+ extended earranty on a CPO, in most of the coverage, would be a duplication of the CPO warranty. Save and invest the cost of an extended warranty against any future repairs and CPO deductibles.
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Thank you for the response. We are looking at a few vehicles, ranging from 15-30k miles, so 3.5-4 years of total coverage. Would you suggest getting a wheel/tire warranty if the car has the sports package or doesn't [we are looking at one with only the 18 inch sports package]? We live in NJ, so our roads are pretty poor. As an aside, I see you have a '13 in Prestige--do you feel the LED headlights are a worthwhile option? Thank you again!
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Thank you for the response. We are looking at a few vehicles, ranging from 15-30k miles, so 3.5-4 years of total coverage. Would you suggest getting a wheel/tire warranty if the car has the sports package or doesn't [we are looking at one with only the 18 inch sports package]? We live in NJ, so our roads are pretty poor. As an aside, I see you have a '13 in Prestige--do you feel the LED headlights are a worthwhile option? Thank you again!
I'm not a fan of any extended warranty and prefer to self-insure. So far, after many cars over many years, I'm way ahead. With 18" wheels, you'll have more rubber than either the 19" or 20" offerings - the Sport suspension won't make much difference IMO. If the pothole is deep enough any wheel can be bent. I had one that needed straightening and it cost $100 and took 45 minutes. No big deal.

LED headlights? Absolutely the best light range and coverage I've ever owned. Definitely worthwhile.
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Thank you for the response. We are looking at a few vehicles, ranging from 15-30k miles, so 3.5-4 years of total coverage. Would you suggest getting a wheel/tire warranty if the car has the sports package or doesn't [we are looking at one with only the 18 inch sports package]? We live in NJ, so our roads are pretty poor. As an aside, I see you have a '13 in Prestige--do you feel the LED headlights are a worthwhile option? Thank you again!
BTW there is a lot more to a Prestige than just the led headlights.
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Thank you for the replies, I have yet to drive a prestige with the LED headlamp option. The Prestige package seems quite nice, especially those ventilated seats during summer. The seats also feel a bit more comfortable (I know they are a bit different) than the regular A6 seats but perhaps I'm crazy? I am happy to hear people aren't having too many issues with bent rims, even given the sports package.
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Thank you for the replies, I have yet to drive a prestige with the LED headlamp option. The Prestige package seems quite nice, especially those ventilated seats during summer. The seats also feel a bit more comfortable (I know they are a bit different) than the regular A6 seats but perhaps I'm crazy? I am happy to hear people aren't having too many issues with bent rims, even given the sports package.
The Prestige seats, besides fancier stitching, some panel differences and ventilation, have a longer bolster for better thigh support. Back when I compared the two, I felt they were be a bit more compliant than the standard seats, possibly due to the ventilation perforations.
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Thank you for the replies, I have yet to drive a prestige with the LED headlamp option. The Prestige package seems quite nice, especially those ventilated seats during summer. The seats also feel a bit more comfortable (I know they are a bit different) than the regular A6 seats but perhaps I'm crazy? I am happy to hear people aren't having too many issues with bent rims, even given the sports package.
It's interesting that the items being discussed here are worthy of further consideration:
1 The LED headlights are good and well worthy of paying the extra.
2 The ventilated seats are an Audi joke, they are noisy, vibrate and ineffective.
3 The seats may or may not be more comfortable. The side bolsters for thighs are too hard and too narrow. There have been numerous complaints regarding how uncomfortable they are - search forums.
4 The Sport suspension mainly serves to provide jolts over concrete seams and unless you anticipate pulling about .9g's consistently then you may wish to reconsider.
5 Together with the Sport suspension you get short height on the tires. 19's obviously better than the 20's but both are not a comfortable ride.

If you want a comfortable sedan then consider the above. If you want the additional sport feeling and attributes then go for the Sport with 20's, it's a great handling car but rides like a truck with the 20's. Besides, a good driver on 18's with all season tires will out perform a bad driver with Sport and 20's.

The bottom line is your choice, all we can do here is point out some experiences of ownership.
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It's interesting that the items being discussed here are worthy of further consideration:
1 The LED headlights are good and well worthy of paying the extra.
2 The ventilated seats are an Audi joke, they are noisy, vibrate and ineffective.
3 The seats may or may not be more comfortable. The side bolsters for thighs are too hard and too narrow. There have been numerous complaints regarding how uncomfortable they are - search forums.
4 The Sport suspension mainly serves to provide jolts over concrete seams and unless you anticipate pulling about .9g's consistently then you may wish to reconsider.
5 Together with the Sport suspension you get short height on the tires. 19's obviously better than the 20's but both are not a comfortable ride.

If you want a comfortable sedan then consider the above. If you want the additional sport feeling and attributes then go for the Sport with 20's, it's a great handling car but rides like a truck with the 20's. Besides, a good driver on 18's with all season tires will out perform a bad driver with Sport and 20's.

The bottom line is your choice, all we can do here is point out some experiences of ownership.
Ok, that's your opinion, so here's mine on those points:

1. The only one of these we agree on.
2. Not a joke. Mine don't "vibrate" nor can I hear the fans when driving (if the engine is off and the fans on high, I can barely hear it). As to effectiveness, if you're looking for a strong, cold blast of air up your nethers, it's not going to happen but if you want a subtle cool, drying of moisture from your body when the a/c is on, it works fine. It's all a matter of expectation.
3. Seats are a very personal thing. While some may not care for the A6 seats, the Prestige versions are comfortable for me. I've done long drives with no issues at all. The Prestige extended thigh bolster help with support.
4 & 5. Disagree completely here. The Sport suspension considerably improves handling with a small difference in ride quality (I test drove both before purchasing the Sport). I can't speak to the 20", but the 19" are not jarring at all. I would imagine the 18" Sport would be somewhat a softer ride with a bit of handling compromise. In any case, unless you're looking for the ride of a typical American sedan, the Sport package definitely enhances the car's performance. Best to drive both and compare.
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Ok, that's your opinion, so here's mine on those points:

1. The only one of these we agree on.
2. Not a joke. Mine don't "vibrate" nor can I hear the fans when driving (if the engine is off and the fans on high, I can barely hear it). As to effectiveness, if you're looking for a strong, cold blast of air up your nethers, it's not going to happen but if you want a subtle cool, drying of moisture from your body when the a/c is on, it works fine. It's all a matter of expectation.
3. Seats are a very personal thing. While some may not care for the A6 seats, the Prestige versions are comfortable for me. I've done long drives with no issues at all. The Prestige extended thigh bolster help with support.
4 & 5. Disagree completely here. The Sport suspension considerably improves handling with a small difference in ride quality (I test drove both before purchasing the Sport). I can't speak to the 20", but the 19" are not jarring at all. I would imagine the 18" Sport would be somewhat a softer ride with a bit of handling compromise. In any case, unless you're looking for the ride of a typical American sedan, the Sport package definitely enhances the car's performance. Best to drive both and compare.
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Yes, I figured that it would stir a response and get others to offer opinions and therefore give both sides to the OP to allow an informed perspective from which his own decisions may be based.
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Thank you both for your ownership experiences, they are truly valued and appreciated. The Prestige we drove did not have noisy ventilated seats. I heard when the air was on, but it wasn't a bothersome sound. The vehicle is primarily for my mother who recently had her car totaled when she was rear ended into another vehicle. She is 67 and did not like the harshness of the 19 inch sports package. She enjoys driving but wants a balance between luxury, comfort and sportiness. She thought the E350 Bluetec (I was leaning her towards the excellent Merc diesel if she wanted to go that route) was heavy with a drab interior by comparison, although the 4 matic would be closer to the 3.0T.
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Thank you both for your ownership experiences, they are truly valued and appreciated. The Prestige we drove did not have noisy ventilated seats. I heard when the air was on, but it wasn't a bothersome sound. The vehicle is primarily for my mother who recently had her car totaled when she was rear ended into another vehicle. She is 67 and did not like the harshness of the 19 inch sports package. She enjoys driving but wants a balance between luxury, comfort and sportiness. She thought the E350 Bluetec (I was leaning her towards the excellent Merc diesel if she wanted to go that route) was heavy with a drab interior by comparison, although the 4 matic would be closer to the 3.0T.
I have 20" sport package. If you experience harshness with 19/20 or/and the sport suspension, chances are the tires are over-inflated to the pressure listed on the door frame (which is for a fully loaded 5 passengers with luggage). Have the dealer set the tire pressure to the recommended one listed inside the owner's manual, you will get a balance of handling and comfort with no harshness.
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1. I would forgo any wheel and tire warranty, especially with the 18" option. You will have plenty of protection. Even the 19" which I have has more treadheight than the low profile 18" tires I had on my previous vehicle (which I did have the wheel and tire warranty which paid for itself several times over). But the Audi wheel's and tires sizing are bigger, and as a result I was comfortable going without the wheel and tire warranty (and I have the sport suspension)

2. Not going to comment on most of the other remarks other to say I saw little if any performance difference in the LED lights to justify the cost differential. Sure they look nice, but performance wise, the difference is minimal.
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Not going to comment on most of the other remarks other to say I saw little if any performance difference in the LED lights to justify the cost differential. Sure they look nice, but performance wise, the difference is minimal.
Just curious, did you compare the two headlights by driving at night on unlit rural roads before purchasing the car? I did and noted a significant improvement in throw distance and angle with the LED version, especially when using the high beams.
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Just curious, did you compare the two headlights by driving at night on unlit rural roads before purchasing the car? I did and noted a significant improvement in throw distance and angle with the LED version, especially when using the high beams.
Yea, I had multiple test drives at different dealers on different type roads (not only the Audi but other cars I was looking at. My wife thought I was crazy but I like to research things well )

I did test drive and compared the Premium Plus and the Prestige at night. As to rural - well, they were unlit and as close to rural as you could get in the area I did the test drive. Now I would not classify them as truly rural - but they were two lane twisty roads, unlit, with open land on either side. I just did not see much difference
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Wives don't usually get our serious anality (analness? analism? ****-lysis?) with our cars.
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No they don't. I shopped for my wife's last car, did the research, test drove a bunch of things, told her this is what I think you would like, she drove it, liked it, we bought it. She spent all of 30 minutes on it. Me, much more, LOL
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No they don't. I shopped for my wife's last car, did the research, test drove a bunch of things, told her this is what I think you would like, she drove it, liked it, we bought it. She spent all of 30 minutes on it. Me, much more, LOL
My wife believes going into our Audi dealer to buy each of our cars was worse than going to the dentist for a root canal. I just don't understand it even though she likes our Audis. But then, after 38 years of marraige, there's a lot I still don't understand. I just accept it.
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Thank you all for the further responses. It's interesting you note no change in ride harshness between the stock and sport suspension. I know on my previous BMW 330xi, the sports package merely changed the seats/steering wheel/rims; the AWD suspension remained completely unchanged. The 19's should be a bit firmer ride than the 18's, no? I guess Audi, king of the AWD system, is able to tweak their suspension in a way that it's somewhat sportier. I hate purchasing additional insurance on anything, but having went through $4k in tires/rims on my BMW 135i in 4 years, I am truly hesitant being without a wheel and tire plan. Granted that car had 18 inch tires, staggered setup/RWD+sports package, but it was nonstop aggravation. I had even switched out the runflats for Michelin Supersports. Has anyone else living in the Northeast had significant expenses replacing bent rims on this car?
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