Thanks to all those contributing to a great forum-I've gleaned a lot of valuable information from this site, especially the ACNA 6% MSRP discount. I'm about to finalize a special order A6 within the next 3 days, and I'm having a really tough time deciding between the TDI and 3.0 TFSI despite having researched them both fairly extensively. I've briefly test driven both cars twice, but could not tell much difference between them in those short drives in busy traffic. I live in the north and drive just under 20K annually, about 75% highway. I plan on keeping the car a long time, at least 6 years. I've never owned a diesel before.
For the record, here's the car I'm ordering: special order paint estoril blue crystal, prestige trim, LEDs, driver assist, 19" sport package, cold weather package. Basically trying to build a semi-economical faux S6.
I understand the break-even economics of the TDI, for me around 90K miles or 4 1/2 years. My decision between the two engines I want based on which is the most satisfying to drive long term. What real world mileage are A6 drivers seeing? I'm usually not an aggressive driver, but I'd like to have reasonable power on tap. I'd appreciate the thoughts of both TDI and 3.0 TFSI A6 owners on how they like (or don't like) their engines.
I'm going to wager you won't get too much help from the responses to this one because we probably all love our A6s and the engines in our A6s too. But I'll start off the parade. I picked up my A6 TDI Dec. 5 and have about 2K miles on it. I love the TDI and am happy I made the choice. That said, I couldn't tell much difference between it and the 3.0TFSI for my driving style which is much like yours. I was in the same quandary because the 3.0 TFSI has to be one of the smoothest, silkiest, most responsive engines in the world.
I do a lot of continuous low speed driving and a fair amount of it on hills. I think the TDI will serve me better for that mission. It remains to be seen if fewer parts in the diesel translates to less maintenance. Somebody here said that someone who buys a $60K+ car does care much about gas mileage. Could be true but I figured if the two cars were so close in performance why not opt for the greener choice. I have averaged almost 37MPG on my first four tankfuls. Do I feel like I am saving the planet? No? I'm happy with my choice and to speak to your question I really like the TDI. I should note that I drove a 2006 Jetta TDI for 7 years so I am comfortable with diesels, in fact I love diesels.
I would point out that there is a lot more experience with the A6 TFSI than with the TDI in the US so it's probably fair to say what you hear from TFSI drivers is going to be more representative of user experience than the few low mileage TDI drivers.
You are going to love this car whichever engine you pick. Nice order specs!
And here we go again...yet another TDI vs. TFSI thread.
Gentlemen, (re)start your engines.
- 2013 A6 3.0T Prestige, Quartz Gray/Black, 19" Sport, Driver Assist, LED headlights,Cold Weather and B&O;
Bridgestone RE970AS tires; XPel Ultimate full front, mirrors and rocker panels, Opti-coat Pro - 2002 allroad 2.7t - 13y/50K mi and still like new - 2009 A4 3.2 Prestige w/Nav (sold at 4y/48K mi) - 2001 A6 2.7t (sold at 8y/98K mi)
I had a 2010 3.0T prior to trading up for a new TDI. I do about 15k miles/year with a 40 mile daily round-trip commute that's probably 75% highway (@ 75-80mph avg) and 25% city - with my 2010, I was averaging right around 20-21 mpg and now with the TDI I'm averaging 30-31 mpg after 6,000 miles, and easily getting over 500 miles between tank-ups.
For me, the appeal of the TDI wasn't so much to save money on gas and figuring out the break-even point for the added $2,400 "investment" in the TDI - as others have said, for those spending $60k +/- on a new car, you're probably not overly concerned about annual fuel costs. What I like about the TDI is the torque, the longer range (fewer fill-ups) and the fact that it is considered a "green" vehicle. As I was reading the latest edition of Quattro Quarterly (which focused heavily on TDI's) last night, I commented to my wife that in the 4 short months I've had the car, I've become a diesel-fan for life.
Based on your described commute and the fact that you're doing 20k miles/year, I think the TDI is the easy, right choice. BTW, nice build configuration - you didn't mention your interior color choice, but with the estoril and wanting a "semi-economical faux S6", I would say go with black interior with the black headliner option, and brushed aluminum trim for a sportier look.
2014 A6 TDI Prestige, Daytona on Black, Black Headliner, Brushed Alum., LED Headlights, 19" Sport Package, Cold Weather Pkg
2010 A6 3.0T Prestige, Night Blue on Amaretto & Black w/ 18" Sport Package
2009 A4 2.OTQ, Deep Sea Blue on Gray
Completely agreed. I completed a roundtrip from Phoenix to San Diego in 24 hours and in total, the distance traveled was 795 miles. I achieved 37.1 mpg on the computer and went 650 miles while still having just under 1/4 of my tank left. Absolutely phenomenal. With the torque, the engine glided up the mountains entering San Diego county on the I-8. Diesel, to me, is the only way you should go.
2014 A6 TDI Premium Plus, 19" Sport package, Side assist package, Bose, Glacier white/beige, Ash wood inlay