2001 A6 sudden transmission problem code 17114
01-10-2012, 02:04 PM
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... I would have the fault erased and then see how quickly the fault comes back. This will let you know how bad the issue really is. If it comes right back, then its really having an issue. Only other thing I can think of is the speed sensors them selves, which requires a bit more diagnosis with a scanner reading the inputs off of them.
01-10-2012, 02:21 PM
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The Passat and my current transmission are both "FAS" -- is this what you mean?
Sigh -- this has been one of the hardest car-related decisions I have ever had to make. Did I mention that they originally quoted me $5777 to repair it with a remanufactured unit? Of that, $4070 was the unit. $5777 is more than the car is worth. But I just invested in valve cover gasket replacement a couple of months ago, so do I keep it limping along? Or quit now?
I have never had a car at the point of discard. This time, I am just exhausted from all the decision making. And on top of this, I am now worried about my '07 A4 transmission also, which seems to sometimes go into Drive with a bit of a bump. Is that one going to go too? It has 71K miles. Next time it is serviced, I will definitely have the fluid changed.
Sigh -- this has been one of the hardest car-related decisions I have ever had to make. Did I mention that they originally quoted me $5777 to repair it with a remanufactured unit? Of that, $4070 was the unit. $5777 is more than the car is worth. But I just invested in valve cover gasket replacement a couple of months ago, so do I keep it limping along? Or quit now?
I have never had a car at the point of discard. This time, I am just exhausted from all the decision making. And on top of this, I am now worried about my '07 A4 transmission also, which seems to sometimes go into Drive with a bit of a bump. Is that one going to go too? It has 71K miles. Next time it is serviced, I will definitely have the fluid changed.
As for your A6, I looked up your transmission code. A "FAS" is a ZF 5HP19FLA transmission (Quattro), same model series as my Allroad. The ZF part number is 1060 040 065 and the VW part number is 01V-300-049-M. As for mine, it needs a torque converter and "D" drum. I was quoted about $2700 for a rebuilt, which I'd rather rebuild myself for that price, LOL. Just have to get it out and apart next.
01-10-2012, 02:24 PM
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The TCM will compensate for wear in the clutches, but once it reaches a certain point, it will detect slippage once they cannot hold anymore. I'm sure the light is on, but the transmission still drives fine. It's like a manual clutch. It will be fine, then start to slip one day, with no pre-warning. That's just mechanically how clutches are.
01-10-2012, 03:06 PM
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The TCM will compensate for wear in the clutches, but once it reaches a certain point, it will detect slippage once they cannot hold anymore. I'm sure the light is on, but the transmission still drives fine. It's like a manual clutch. It will be fine, then start to slip one day, with no pre-warning. That's just mechanically how clutches are.
(BTW, there was no Check Engine light on before the car went in to fail safe mode.)
01-10-2012, 06:19 PM
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I guess it's what the car is worth to you. My 01 A6Q had a torque converter clutch failure at around 110k miles. I had it rebuilt for $3200 with a 2 year warranty. It still runs perfect at 124K miles. It's in perfect shape, I painted it last summer (Black Cherry Pearl), and it's still worth a lot more to me than going out and buying a new (or newer) one for tens of thousands of dollars.
Repair costs can seem high, but compare them to the cost of a new car. $50,000 +. Like a mechanic friend of mine once said..."Oil is a lot cheaper than a ring job!"
Repair costs can seem high, but compare them to the cost of a new car. $50,000 +. Like a mechanic friend of mine once said..."Oil is a lot cheaper than a ring job!"
01-11-2012, 02:24 AM
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I guess it's what the car is worth to you. My 01 A6Q had a torque converter clutch failure at around 110k miles. I had it rebuilt for $3200 with a 2 year warranty. It still runs perfect at 124K miles. It's in perfect shape, I painted it last summer (Black Cherry Pearl), and it's still worth a lot more to me than going out and buying a new (or newer) one for tens of thousands of dollars.
Repair costs can seem high, but compare them to the cost of a new car. $50,000 +. Like a mechanic friend of mine once said..."Oil is a lot cheaper than a ring job!"
Repair costs can seem high, but compare them to the cost of a new car. $50,000 +. Like a mechanic friend of mine once said..."Oil is a lot cheaper than a ring job!"
01-11-2012, 08:03 PM
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There are clutches and bands in the trans and the torque converter. The plate and disc clutch in the c wors like a regular clutch in that it Locks the crankshaft to te trans input shaft. Or unlocks it for torque converter fluid coupling ops. The clutch discs and ands in the trans act to change gears in the planetary gearsets by fixing drums or planets or sun gears. Auto trans generally have systems f planetary gearsets ( which is why early gm ad three gears or even just two with only one
Planetary gearset)
Planetary gearset)
01-12-2012, 04:25 AM
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There are clutches and bands in the trans and the torque converter. The plate and disc clutch in the c wors like a regular clutch in that it Locks the crankshaft to te trans input shaft. Or unlocks it for torque converter fluid coupling ops. The clutch discs and ands in the trans act to change gears in the planetary gearsets by fixing drums or planets or sun gears. Auto trans generally have systems f planetary gearsets ( which is why early gm ad three gears or even just two with only one
Planetary gearset)
Planetary gearset)
01-12-2012, 10:11 AM
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If you like the car just replace the transmission and get over it.
I just replaced the transmission in my 02S6 at about 100K. I have about 50 hours on it since then and it's fine.
I'll dump the trans fluid in 30K miles and thereafter or sell the car, but in the meantime I have a car I like.
I just replaced the transmission in my 02S6 at about 100K. I have about 50 hours on it since then and it's fine.
I'll dump the trans fluid in 30K miles and thereafter or sell the car, but in the meantime I have a car I like.
01-16-2012, 06:39 PM
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The shops hesitation is understandable. If the yard trans is no good you are on the hook for labor regardless and it's bad feelings all around. Not good for business.
Having said that nothing I've read says to me that this is the right shop for the job. Did they even pull the dipstick to see what the fluid looks like? Do they not have their own salvage sources they trust and can stand behind? Being an Audi specialist is great, but these guys sound like parts replacers more than experienced mechanics.
I read these threads with a certain trepidation though. I hauled a 1700# camper all over the place last summer with the Avant. I should probably just start a trans fund now to prepare
Having said that nothing I've read says to me that this is the right shop for the job. Did they even pull the dipstick to see what the fluid looks like? Do they not have their own salvage sources they trust and can stand behind? Being an Audi specialist is great, but these guys sound like parts replacers more than experienced mechanics.
I read these threads with a certain trepidation though. I hauled a 1700# camper all over the place last summer with the Avant. I should probably just start a trans fund now to prepare