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Old 04-24-2012, 04:49 PM
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Seems like the complete tail light assembly is usually the problem.
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Had the same problem on both sides (6 months apart).
You can try to change the bulb first, then the the bulb holder (about $35 if I recall correctly) and finally the entire assembly for about $135 I think.
The second time I did not waste any more time or money and went for the entire assembly directly.
You can easily change it yourself.
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Default I have officially solved this problem - for FREE!

I was having the same issue as all of you with my turn signal/brake light intermittently going out on the driver side, then coming back, then going out etc. All of my LEDs work, so I knew that the actual LED strip could not have been the problem. I had tried everything on this post to no avail. So I did the following and the problem is solved for good. This will probably void any warranty and is a little ghetto, but its free and a permanent fix. The true fix is to spend $200 and replace the light, but I don't have $200 and you probably don't either so here you go.

This is what you will need to do the job.

1. Solder Gun
2. Solder
3. Wire Splicer
4. 16 guage wire
5. Butt Splices 22-16 guage

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So my ground pin holder originally broke and I placed a zip-tie which worked temporarily(48 horus), now I see the plastic on the power pin also broke. So this is how my tail light looked at the start.

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To start I followed the brown ground wire and power wire from the car to the lights connection. I then followed the trail in the light assembly to identify the power and ground on the lights power board.

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Next I soldered an 18 gauge wire to both the ground and power locations on the lights board. Be sure you use just enough wire as too much excess will make it tougher to put the 2 pieces of the tail light back together. I used about 4" and probably should have went with 2" or 3"

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Next I removed the LED's ground and power wires from the broken plastic holders. You can see where they attach to the LED board inside of the tail light which you cannot access without cutting the light housing. I also cut off the top of the plastic holders so they would bang up against my solder on the power board.

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Next I stripped the LED power and ground wires and attached the butt splices. ***CAUTION*** - BE VERY CAREFUL HANDLING THE LED POWER AND GROUND WIRES. Their connection to the LED board is fragile and if you break these wires off the LED board it could be difficult to solder them back onto the LED board.

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Next I placed my newly soldered on 16 gauge wires from the power board into the other end of the butt splicer to create a direct connection. Be sure you connect P-P and G-G.

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Here you can see the connections before closing the two portions back together.

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Then just tuck in your excess wire and snap back together and you're done!

This whole project took me about 20 minutes to complete and I had all the supplies in my garage. I have lived with the light failures for 6 months and can't believe I waited this long to fix it.

Its been 24 hours and no brake light/turn signal failures yet. I would normally get them every trip I took multiple times a day. I will update you guys in few weeks to be sure this is the long term fix.

Good Luck!
Old 04-27-2013, 10:31 AM
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Sorry I couldn't figure out how to edit my post. Its supposed to say:

Next I removed the LED's ground and power wires from the broken plastic holders. You can see where they attach to the LED board inside of the tail light which you cannot access without cutting the light housing. I also cut off the top of the plastic holders so they wouldn't bang up against my solder on the power board.
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That's crazy how common this problem is. I, too, had to hot glue and zip-tie it
Old 04-30-2013, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tama2112
"re-pinned" the connector
I'm having the same problem like most of you guys, I wasn't aware the problem was so common and there wasn't a recall.
Old 07-03-2013, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by schalliol
Ok, I am pretty positive I fixed my issue, though I do seem to have one set of two LEDs on the driver's side that doesn't always illuminate. This however doesn't short the lighting and the other lights work. I may see if I can get into where the LEDs are somehow to look at that, but it's a minor issue.

So, my particular problem was a crack in the plastic on one of the connectors. I took some pics:
Given the way the plastic is constructed, I can see how this could happen. So, I did replace my bulbs and bulb holder, but it was really cheap. I figure the bulbs might go out anyway, so I have some spares on hand and these should be good for longer. I think if I took it to my dealer, I'd be out for the new LED panel and labor ($350)? The actual repairs were the cost of electrical tape.

Hopefully others have the same problem and resolution.
So i tried this out because i was having the same problem, right rear brake light outage on my 05 c6 4.2.
I removed the tail light assembley which took no time.. And i had the same exact connector plactic broken.. So i used electric tape and fixed it... Havent had it since! Been about 3 days now.. Hopefully it doesnt come back!

Thanks for your help, wouldnt of done it without you
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Thanks to all for helping me fix my issue with this. Dealer wanted $400 to replace the whole assembly.

Issue: Idiot light was going on sporadically for many months. Rear passenger directional seemed to work sporadically. Stopped by dealer a few times when oil was low and the directional always seemed to work. Recently the directional stopped working all the time.

I found this link and went at it. Attached below are some pics and words describing how I fixed it. Very similar to what everyone else did. Some things I didn't realize at the beginning:

1. The directional lights are LED's. You cannot see them. Once disassembled there are two wires coming out to posts. One of these posts cracked and broke the connection to the LED's. All the rest of the bulbs are for brakes, etc. (I started out by buying replacement bulbs)

2. The LED's are NOT replaceable due to really long life so that alone points to connectors & connections.

3. Removal of light assembly is straight forward EXCEPT do NOT pry the red lamp assembly at the body exterior side (even though it is kind of necessary). The red lamp assembly chips very easily and looks bad when done. I slightly chipped mine but fixed it with crazy glue (only a little) which spread over and into the cracks. Remove the black "flap" (near the trunk latch) to expose some back surface area to pry the red lamp assembly out without touching the body exterior side at all.

4. Be as gentle as possible cause Audi still suffers from "easily broken plastic clip syndrome".

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Put some duct tape (on both) for some added "help"
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Default fixed problem

Same issue as many. My problem was related to the grounding causing all errors. One terminal in the male end of the plug showed signs of arcing. Cleaned it and that fixed it for one day. Took a pair of pairs and twisted the terminal about ten degrees and plugged it back in. Problem solved.


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