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Old 02-06-2014, 01:36 PM   #1
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Just got the news from audi that my engine is blown. the timing chain tensioner went bad and caused the engine to skip bending all of my intake and exhaust valves. possible cylinder damage as well. I am in need of my engine to be rebuilt or a replacement engine. Any recommendations of companies where I can get a decent price on a rebuild or another used engine or rebuilt used engine would be greatly appreciated. as of now im looking at $3800 for a used engine I have no idea how it runs and prolly have to strip it down and check it all before install and seems high for something of that nature. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
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Asap, welcome aboard!

Assuming you are in the USA, I'd look at http://car-part.com/ for engines. Also, depending upon your location, someone else might be able to guide you to a local junk yard that specializes in Euro cars.
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Found a guy on ebay that has a engine with 87k on it and comes with everything attached for $3250 and 6 month warranty. I think that's a decent price out of what I've seen so far. Pretty much pull the shot one out and drop in the new one. Thinking about replacing the timing chain and tensioners before install so hopefully I don't have to do this again. What do you guys think about that? I am new to audi so any input helps. Anything else should be done to the engine while its out before install?
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The tensioners are scary on our cars and you should replace them on the replacement engine. Did you get any warning or noises before your tensioners failed? Want to know what to keep an ear out for.
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Nope no warning what so ever. I left the car outside for 2 wks in the cold while waiting for a rebuilt abs module to come. when it came in the battery was dead and wouldn't start. cranked but no firing...
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Nope no warning what so ever. I left the car outside for 2 wks in the cold while waiting for a rebuilt abs module to come. when it came in the battery was dead and wouldn't start. cranked but no firing...
I'm trying to understand exactly what happened. It appears that the battery was dead, so you jumped it and then timing chain had a failure which caused the bent valves...is that correct?

As for replacement engines, any engine you get should be fully rebuilt. Don't simply go with a used engine that hasn't been rebuilt and drop it in your car. Since, you will have no idea as to when it will implode. This is moot advice, if you decide to get a crate engine...but at that cost, you might as well get a new car

There are a number of folks in various parts of the country who do engine rebuilds on Audi's. Where are you located? That way we might be able to suggest a good rebuild specialist. Furthermore, there are online places that sell engines, but one of the best local resources is the local German car engine places or junk yards which specialize in German autos.

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I'm trying to understand exactly what happened. It appears that the battery was dead, so you jumped it and then timing chain had a failure which caused the bent valves...is that correct?

As for replacement engines, any engine you get should be fully rebuilt. Don't simply go with a used engine that hasn't been rebuilt and drop it in your car. Since, you will have no idea as to when it will implode. This is moot advice, if you decide to get a crate engine...but at that cost, you might as well get a new car

There are a number of folks in various parts of the country who do engine rebuilds on Audi's. Where are you located? That way we might be able to suggest a good rebuild specialist. Furthermore, there are online places that sell engines, but one of the best local resources is the local German car engine places or junk yards which specialize in German autos.

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Trust me it makes no sense to me as well. This is all according to audi for what happened. I got my abs module rebuilt so I parked it outside waiting for that for about 2 wks. It drove and ran just had no and or traction control. I messed up and. Didn't start it daily in this horribly cold IN winter and it died. Somehow this all went awry while it was sitting or the first crank trying to jump it. I would love to buy a new crate engine but just not possible and I've only had the car for 3 months as it is. Can't sell it as is or prolly loose about 6 or 7 grand on the stupid car. My plan is to buy a used engine and go through the whole thing and replace atleast the timing chains and tensioners and prolly water pump.
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Found a guy on ebay that has a engine with 87k on it and comes with everything attached for $3250 and 6 month warranty. I think that's a decent price out of what I've seen so far. Pretty much pull the shot one out and drop in the new one. Thinking about replacing the timing chain and tensioners before install so hopefully I don't have to do this again. What do you guys think about that? I am new to audi so any input helps. Anything else should be done to the engine while its out before install?
Have then check the engine compression, But overall if your going to replace the timing chain and tensioners you should be good. Also once your at it replace some of the know gaskets known for leaking oil. But that sounds like it's great deal. Just make sure that it's the same engine code.

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Hi ASAP,

I noticed you have 2 threads going regarding this issue, both here and the C5 forum 2005 a6 3.2 battery died now won't start . You should realize your vehicle is a C6. Furthermore, as far as doing the work yourself, there's a write-up someone on this forum did specifically around the timing chain replacement.

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthre...0#post24284720

Oh yeah, and get yourself a Bentley...trying to do this work without one would be a fool's errand .

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Old 02-08-2014, 06:36 AM   #10
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Hi ASAP,

I noticed you have 2 threads going regarding this issue, both here and the C5 forum 2005 a6 3.2 battery died now won't start . You should realize your vehicle is a C6. Furthermore, as far as doing the work yourself, there's a write-up someone on this forum did specifically around the timing chain replacement.

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthre...0#post24284720

Oh yeah, and get yourself a Bentley...trying to do this work without one would be a fool's errand .

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Idk what a Bentley is unless ur referring to another car
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Idk what a Bentley is unless ur referring to another car
It's a repair manual
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Idk what a Bentley is unless ur referring to another car
FWIW, the Bentley manual is the go to guide for pretty much ALL Audi repair. Trying to do an engine swap/rebuild without one would be near impossible...unless of course you've done numerous past installs.

http://www.bentleypublishers.com/audi/
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FWIW, the Bentley manual is the go to guide for pretty much ALL Audi repair. Trying to do an engine swap/rebuild without one would be near impossible...unless of course you've done numerous past installs.

http://www.bentleypublishers.com/audi/
Gotcha. This is all I found so far.
Audi A6, S6
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
including Avant, quattro
Repair Manual on DVD-ROM
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Gotcha. This is all I found so far.
Audi A6, S6
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
including Avant, quattro
Repair Manual on DVD-ROM
yep, that sounds right. here's what you need: http://www.bentleypublishers.com/aud...009-ebahn.html
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yep, that sounds right. here's what you need: http://www.bentleypublishers.com/aud...009-ebahn.html
Cool. Yea that's what I found. Man just seen pics of the timing chains on a 4.2 and I feel so over my head... Lol
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One thing i want to caution everyone replacing an 3.2 engine that had valve to piston contact: replace it with a complete engine. Do not reuse the intake manifold from your blown engine. It will have metal pieces in it. I found out the hard way when i bought an engine as a stripped short block and had to reuse my intake manifold. About 1k miles later the replacement engine ingested the metal and two cylinder walls looked like they imprisoned some wild cats :-)) so i had to replace the engine block and that's when i did a full timing job and now it rums great.
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One thing i want to caution everyone replacing an 3.2 engine that had valve to piston contact: replace it with a complete engine. Do not reuse the intake manifold from your blown engine. It will have metal pieces in it. I found out the hard way when i bought an engine as a stripped short block and had to reuse my intake manifold. About 1k miles later the replacement engine ingested the metal and two cylinder walls looked like they imprisoned some wild cats :-)) so i had to replace the engine block and that's when i did a full timing job and now it rums great.
Thank you for the heads up cause I got an engine on its way from getting rebuilt. I'm not sure if I have to worry so much with the intake cause the engine went in my garage and haven't been able to get it running since besides a couple starts with starting fluid. Wonder if I can clean my intake just to play safe?
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Thank you for the heads up cause I got an engine on its way from getting rebuilt. I'm not sure if I have to worry so much with the intake cause the engine went in my garage and haven't been able to get it running since besides a couple starts with starting fluid. Wonder if I can clean my intake just to play safe?
Not sure if you managed to see the internals of the engine after it was torn apart, if it was. If there was piston to valve contact then it's very likely there will be debris in the manifold. If the valves were just slightly bent then you could be fine and that engine could actually be repaired.
in my case, i shopped around for the manifold but all that i could find were removed from a blown engine, somewhat to be expected. So i tore mine apart ( cannot be split in half like the 4.2) and filled it with water and industrial degreaser. I let it sit a bit and then i moved the internal flaps back and forth and them took a garden hose and gave it a long thorough rinse. After it dried i shook it again while moving the internal flaps to make sure nothing was lodged in the internal flaps. The procedure was quite ghetto but it did the job.
by the way, who is rebuilding your engine? I have another 3.2 in parts thst i'd like to reassemble but the cost of puston rings and the bearings makes it not worth it. Just wondering if anyone makes rebuild parts for these engines as i was not able to find anything other than the dealer and even then was not sure which parts to get as there seem to be multiple variations of the same rod bearing for example.
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Not sure if you managed to see the internals of the engine after it was torn apart, if it was. If there was piston to valve contact then it's very likely there will be debris in the manifold. If the valves were just slightly bent then you could be fine and that engine could actually be repaired.
in my case, i shopped around for the manifold but all that i could find were removed from a blown engine, somewhat to be expected. So i tore mine apart ( cannot be split in half like the 4.2) and filled it with water and industrial degreaser. I let it sit a bit and then i moved the internal flaps back and forth and them took a garden hose and gave it a long thorough rinse. After it dried i shook it again while moving the internal flaps to make sure nothing was lodged in the internal flaps. The procedure was quite ghetto but it did the job.
by the way, who is rebuilding your engine? I have another 3.2 in parts thst i'd like to reassemble but the cost of puston rings and the bearings makes it not worth it. Just wondering if anyone makes rebuild parts for these engines as i was not able to find anything other than the dealer and even then was not sure which parts to get as there seem to be multiple variations of the same rod bearing for example.
Actually after a bunch of searching with the idea of fixing my engine but was looking around 3 grand in parts and lots of labor or buying a used engine for $3500 and then another $1000 in timing parts and lots of labor. I happen to run into a company in California that has a engine with 60k miles and there going to open up the engine and do a sludge clean and then replace all the timing parts and install a upgraded water pump for $3100 shipped. Decided to not chance doing internal work and saved some time. I have 2 weeks to get the old engine off before the new one comes.
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