A8 / S8 (D2 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the D2 Audi A8 and S8 produced from 1994-2002
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

6 speed swapping an s8, any advice/warnings?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-18-2015, 01:41 PM
  #1  
AudiWorld Newcomer
Thread Starter
 
smsayler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 6 speed swapping an s8, any advice/warnings?

Instead of waiting for the auto to fail, I just decided to put a 6 speed in her. I'm doing an 01e from a b5 s4. Already bought the tranny and diff. Already have the shift linkage. Still need a prop shaft, anyone know if there is a factory one that will bolt up? I plan on ordering manual s8 tranny mounts from Europe, pedal assembly from an a6, still need to figure out front cv shafts also.


So I just figured I'd make a thread and see if anyone knows anything in particular I should watch out for. This is being done at a high end performance shop with access to any machining required for custom fabrication, but I don't think there will be much of that from reading other 6 speed swap threads.

Also am putting in a lower ratio 6th gear as was advised in other threads.

Any advice is appreciated!

Also, what's the value of a manual s8 in the US? I saw one on here listed for $15k. Is that a realistic value?


Thanks!
Old 09-18-2015, 05:54 PM
  #2  
AudiWorld Super User
 
tozoM8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,706
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default You can keep the S8 rear diff.

Get a drive shaft from an A8L. They are 4.5" longer.
Old 09-21-2015, 07:16 AM
  #3  
AudiWorld Member
 
pbarrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Mine has been for sale here for some time here with no takers. It is such a fab car I thought it would be worth a lot more. You will know the street value of a top notch conversion tonight at 8 pm when the bidding ends: Audi S8 6 Speed Manual Transmission | eBay
Old 09-21-2015, 08:01 AM
  #4  
Audiworld Junior Member
 
Optimusglen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

In for later, when I finally do a 6-speed swap.

But yeah, if you have an S8, you've got the right final drive ratio to match the B5 S4 transmission.
Old 09-21-2015, 08:40 AM
  #5  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
JAA 4.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I'm collecting parts to do mine as well. You will need UrS4/6 front halfshafts plus a spacer for one side.

Driveshaft - New D2 S8/A8 6 speed (6mt) Cardan/Driveshaft, Advanced Automotion

You will need the Euro front subframe, not trans mounts unless I'm mistaken. Rear diff can stay like noted above.

I'd also get a better clutch than a stock B5S4. - this is a pretty good deal.
https://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catal...27t-p-822.html
Old 09-21-2015, 11:24 AM
  #6  
AudiWorld Newcomer
Thread Starter
 
smsayler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks guys.

Isn't a stock s4 clutch good for 400HP? I don't really plan on modding the motor, and I typically don't beat on my cars...
Old 09-21-2015, 11:25 AM
  #7  
AudiWorld Newcomer
Thread Starter
 
smsayler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

And the rear diff came with the tranny, so I guess I'll just sell it.
Old 09-21-2015, 12:52 PM
  #8  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
JAA 4.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Stock S4s made 250hp, and they have a dual mass flywheel that is heavy and prone to failure. RS4s made 380hp? I think. You can use a B5 RS4 clutch ($450), but those are not as robust as a B7 RS4 clutch. Plus, Rock Auto sells B7 RS4 clutches for $137. Those require JHM to machine an aftermarket B5 flywheel for $250, which is what the whole kit is that I listed.

I have a good B5 S4 clutch/flywheel I'd sell for cheap as I have no use for it. It came with my B5 S4 driveline pallet of parts if you don't have one.

Last edited by JAA 4.2; 09-21-2015 at 12:56 PM.
Old 09-23-2015, 05:43 AM
  #9  
AudiWorld Member
 
TwoSeven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JAA 4.2
I have a good B5 S4 clutch/flywheel I'd sell for cheap as I have no use for it. It came with my B5 S4 driveline pallet of parts if you don't have one.
How cheap are we talking, and where are you located? I am using a B5 O1E with the 2.7t spacer, so I would need the flywheel shim with this setup, yes? Thanks in advance.

~Sam
Old 09-25-2015, 08:46 PM
  #10  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
JAA 4.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,122
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Hi Sam,

I don't know if you need the spacer.

Guy that sold me the trans said the clutch had 10,000 miles on it. Car was stock. It overheated and he parted it out. $100 + shipping for the flywheel, clutch, pressure plate? I'm in Detroit metro.

John


Quick Reply: 6 speed swapping an s8, any advice/warnings?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:31 PM.