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Old 03-29-2013, 12:14 PM   #1
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Default 06 A8 camera retrofit pursuit...

Hello all,
06 and 07 with back up camera people, please let me know what do I have back here? What are these connectors?
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Wrong address. You should address this question to people with satellite radio.
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Never thought of satellite radio... It wasn't installed in -06 A8? It must be an option. On my Q7, it was standard.

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Never thought of satellite radio... It wasn't installed in -06 A8? It must be an option. On my Q7, it was standard.

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MY 2006 A8 HAS XM RADIO IF THATS WHAT YOU MEAN BY SATELITE RADIO.
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Default SAT was an option in 2006: XM or Sirius; wiring more generally...

You could get either one, or neither. It became standard a year or two later, but not as of 2006. BTW, the boxes also changed over time so if you put it in, be sure you get the right rev. box for the connectors you have. Sirius and XM boxes both fit the wiring. The first owner of mine flipped it from Sirius to XM actually--has XM now but build sticker said Sirius as ordered.

The SAT wiring is there because it was a dealer installable option. Don't just assume that in trying to retrofit stuff though. Remember D3 wiring harnesses are custom to the car build/VIN so its not like the old days with a bunch of connectors left around for options that weren't put in, or not used in U.S. models.

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Never thought of satellite radio... It wasn't installed in -06 A8? It must be an option. On my Q7, it was standard.

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Finished researching... looking for parts. I don't think it's too much problems.

Johnny, did you get your parts yet?

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Johnny,
After reading the MMI system, I believe it's not that complicated to add the camera onto our A8L system.
I believe we don't need TV tuner.
I believe we only need the camera control box.
I believe we have to run the wire from camera control box to the MMI control box in the glove box regardless unless we have the TV tuner, which we don't.
Now, I'm going to use wireless camera since I don't want to run wires from trunk lid to the trunk and the Q7 license plate doesn't have they key lock with the camera installed, unless we can try this guy, but I'm not sure how to fit all locks and handle in one.
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So all we need is to connect the Can+ & Can- (from camera control box) to the parking control box - use vag-com to turn on the camera option. This one will overlay the camera and the graphic mode with the safety area of the camera from Audi every time we put in reverse.
Here is the kicker - we need 2 sets of wireless receivers and transmitters-
1. 1 go from the license plate to input of camera control box-
2. 1 go from the output of the camera control box - the MMI control box in the glove box.

These sets are only $17 each on Amazon.
Or we can run the wire for #2. and keep the wireless for #1.
All we need is to get Fakra connectors cables to run.

I'm waiting for a guy from Germany to confirm the shipping on the camera control module, I'll check my MMI control box Gateway.

BTW, the 4L0 907 468 B is in my car which is the same as the one on my Q7 that has the camera option, so it should work fine.
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Now, if anyone who's already done this on an A8, please help.

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Louis.
I am confused at your post, YOU address it to me "Johnny" and you keep stating "WE" need this or that.

"I believe we don't need TV tuner"

I never said a "TV TUNER" was needed for retrofitting a OEM RVC, I installed the TV Tuner for a totally deferent reason, to be able to install two Audio Video inputs into the 20 pin red connector of the TV Tuner, and then add a 2 in / 1 out video switcher for a total of 3 A/V inputs, so I could insert my OEM RSE 6 disc DVD player into the TV Tuner, which in turn now plays DVD Video on all three screens, and also allows for DVD player audio to be inserted into the Bose system, instead of just having DVD audio only for rear passengers with headphones on, my setup also allowed for the rear passengers the have rear view camera on their screens, so RVC on all 3 screens.

One of the added benefits of adding the TV Tuner was the fact that I could input any Audio Video device via RCA plugs, So a after market Sony CCD RVC was also fitted and tied into reverse light for 12 volt trigger of video switcher to display RVC when in CD/AUX External AV Source 1 and selected reverse gear, it worked fine for a while, but after the second replacement of said waterproof RVC failing, and the fact that I would have to set CD/AUX button to External AV source 1 to view RVC, I am now going all OEM RVC, But my TV tuner still serves it purpose for inputs like a home A/V receiver does, and I am now updating to the Digital TV Tuner.

"I believe we only need the camera control box"

You will also need the MMI Control Head unit # 4E0 035 729 A The "A" signifying FABS input for the video input to MMI, Being your vehicle did not come with TV or RVC, you will have no FBAS input on your MMI CH, Therefore no VIDEO INPUT.


"I believe we have to run the wire from camera control box to the MMI control box in the glove box regardless unless we have the TV tuner, which we don't"

YES I do, and even if you had the TV tuner and the RVC control unit, the wiring is like this, the TV FBAS output goes to RVC control unit's FBAS TV input, the rear camera FBAS output goes to the RVC control unit's camera FBAS input, then the FBAS output of the RVC control unit goes to the front of vehicle to the MMI control head's FBAS input.



"Here is the kicker - we need 2 sets of wireless receivers and transmitters-
1. 1 go from the license plate to input of camera control box-
2. 1 go from the output of the camera control box - the MMI control box in the glove box"

I don't need any of this nonsense, the FBAS cable is so easy to run, anything else is just lazy.
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Did you use the original back up camera from Audi? No lines? How do we know if we have the 4E0 035 729 A, we have to open it up?

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Louis, did you even read my post ?

I clearly state "Sony CCD RVC" first time, now going OEM.

Again read my post,
Your vehicle is a 06 it did not come with RVC, and it did not come with TV option you state, as you have no TV tuner, again you state that, what happens when you push the CD/AUX button, do you see what's in the picture below ?

If you have no factory TV tuner and or no factory RVC, YOU HAVE NO MMI WITH FBAS VIDEO INPUT.
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Did you get the rubber boot for the trunk? What's the part number?

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Can you take the picture of your camera position, please?

I just ordered everything today except 4E0 035 729 A

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So, what stuff do you have on your car already now? How many components you've been buying so far?

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Louis, My vehicle has factory rubber sleeves for wiring on both sides factory installed.




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Did you get the rubber boot for the trunk? What's the part number?

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Can you take the picture of your camera position, please?

I just ordered everything today except 4E0 035 729 A

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Default A6 & Q7 MMI controller doesn't work with A8?

Hello Johnny,

"No this one will work just with a6 and q7

- fabio123blou"

Please check this one for me to see why the seller said it won't work on 06 A8L

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I'll modify my current Head Unit with the FBAS connector and add a few components on to existing circuit to get it working. I got the schematic.

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I'll modify my current Head Unit with the FBAS connector and add a few components on to existing circuit to get it working. I got the schematic.

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Default Took out the glove box to see what I have in 06 A8

I hate to guess what I have in my car, so I took off the glove box and yes, I don't want to install the old 907 729 A, I have the new software version one.

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The screws for the Head Unit are too small, my T10 torx doesn't fit. Does anyone know what size it's supposed to be, T9 or T8?

I'm getting close. My camera controller won't be here until 2 weeks later, I'll have time to work with updating the circuit and connectors.

Until I opened the box, I can't tell how many things I need to replace. Hopefully since it's a new unit, not many, just the Fakra connector, if not,
approximately 25 components + an 24.576 Mhz oscillator.

The parts should cost less than $20.

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Default Opened up 4e0 907 729

So, I opened up the Head Unit today - T8 is needed to remove the torx screws. There is a whole circuit that needs to be populated, but it does cost less than buying a used up one.

the 24.576 MHZ only cost .87 at electronic store.

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I ordered extra to make a few units.

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Slowly but surely!!!

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