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Old 04-26-2014, 04:57 PM   #1
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Anyone know what i can expect to pay to machin front rotors and install EBC red stuff pads? Also my brake wear light just came on, any idea how much pad is left when this happens?
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...my brake wear light just came on, any idea how much pad is left when this happens?
According to the official factory disc, you have 3000 miles after the warning comes on. I was surprised to see such a generous figure since they would want to err on the "worst-case" scenario; i.e., if the car was used for fully-loaded, fast stopping, "stop-and-go" city driving.

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Default with warning light on-still have some meat on the pads...

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how I did mine front brakes

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Still looking for cost, It won't be a DIY project for me.
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Still looking for cost, It won't be a DIY project for me.
Prices vary depending on where you live and who does the work. Indy shops usually are less expensive than dealers. Call around and they should be able to give you a rough estimate over the phone.

Why are you turning down the front rotors? I usually don't. If they are grooved I replace them. If they are flat and thick enough, I just replace the pads.
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Rotors should be replaced not machined. Minimum thickness is 31 mm. OEM are the best choice and they are not too expensive here. For any properly equiped shop it is 1 hour job max. It can be done in 15 minutes, by the way.
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You don't machine rotors, you replace them if they are worn. This is a one hour job at any shop, so just call around.
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This will be my first brake job with the Audi. On my past cars the crack staff at that certain golden touch brake shop always told me I needed new rotors, but when I complained of the price they recommended machining as an option. Been doing that for years. I take it I've been taken?
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Front brakes and rotors should be in the $450 range for parts online. That is OEM rotors and either Red Stuff or OEM pads, they are about the same price. It is really pretty easy to do your self. I measure the rotor thickness and just change the pads if the rotors are still above the minimum.

My front brakes probably had close to a third of the total thickness left when the light came on.
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This will be my first brake job with the Audi. On my past cars the crack staff at that certain golden touch brake shop always told me I needed new rotors, but when I complained of the price they recommended machining as an option. Been doing that for years. I take it I've been taken?
I wouldn't say "taken," per se, but machining is generally not considered "acceptable" within the higher echelons of the car world. It is a common practice on "normal" cars, however is not an accepted practice on any German cars.

In proper practice, rotors are either good to go another round or they're not. There is a min thickness spec of the rotor. Generally speaking, if you run your finger over the edge of the rotor and can feel a sizable "lip," it's time for new rotors. On average, on a daily driven car, you should get two sets of pads to one set of rotors.

Machining will get rid of the lip, and does have the side benefit of getting you down to virgin metal, but it does this by taking away material.
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Is brake pad wear sensor (4E0615437A) removable/changeable from brake pad ? from this diagram I assume that it is
http://catalog.vagauto.com.ua/img/au.../667615550.png
I'm asking because I'm thinking about to change front brake pads before I get wear indication on, and because I don't see logical and financial reason to wait till I have to buy not only pads but sensors as well which is one sensor equals the set of brake pads
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Default On D3's, sensors are part of (front) brake pads.

They are not a separate part like they are my Q5 (or A/S 4,5, etc.).
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I have checked with OEM VAG parts supplier and he confirmed that part 4E0615437A can be ordered separately ~60 USD for one.
Here are pictures of some manufactures which are making these sensors, so it means that they are changeable.

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I have checked with OEM VAG parts supplier and he confirmed that part 4E0615437A can be ordered separately ~60 USD for one.
Here are pictures of some manufactures which are making these sensors, so it means that they are changeable.

Never seen anything of the kind, but even if they are available why would you buy them? Seriously, a set of new pads costs only a few dollars more. If you want to just fool the display warning you can create a loop at the chassis connector.
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probably you misunderstood me ...
as I wrote the sensors are OK on my car, no warning light, still ~1/3 of brake pads left
so the initial question was if it is possible to install JUST new pads, because sensors are still GOOD, what for to change them and bin ~130 USD ?
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First person, I have changed and used Audi D3 OE pads, both the 4.2 and 6.0 part number variants. The sensors are cast into the pad material and you could not remove them except with a cutting tool, absolutely destroying the pad in the process. 100% confident in that answer for U.S. or any equivalent fitment. To after install fit in like in the picture, you would have to custom machine the pad material--there is no such notch or void to fit the pad side of that sensor in the picture otherwise.

I know the picture and have see sensors like those shipped in an occasional box of EBC red pads for the rears. However, they are simply not used in the front. nor have I com across a rear fitment for them so far on any Audi even though I ended up with a set or two in some non-OE rear pad boxes. Nor were they removable BTW on my 2000 4.2 A6 with the same front brakes as the D2 A8 (HP2's), nor my C4 A6, nor even my C3 5000 (100). But, again I have seen the removable sensors so know the general set up and the pockets left in the pad material or backing plate for them where used. They are used on my 2010 Mini in both S and JCW configurations, and are used on my 2013 Audi Q5 (in common with Audi B8 platform based vehicles/drivetrains), both in the regular brake set up or in the RS5 upgrade swap outs.
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I'm talking about S8 D3 with ceramic brakes 380X38MM ? correct ?, maybe they are different .. otherwise ETKA wouldn't show separate part numbers for pads and sensors, and they wouldn't be available to by separately, true or not ?
Anyhow soon I will see it myself.
Here is actual picture of sensor, made by Brembo for VAG:
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I'm talking about S8 D3 with ceramic brakes 380X38MM ? correct ?, maybe they are different .. otherwise ETKA wouldn't show separate part numbers for pads and sensors, and they wouldn't be available to by separately, true or not ?
Anyhow soon I will see it myself.
Here is actual picture of sensor, made by Brembo for VAG:
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