Help troublshooting lean condition
#21
AudiWorld Member
This is a really useful thread with lots of valuable information. I hope the OP's issues are resolved permanently now.
Quick question: the VCDS video shows a long term trim of 1.5%. Is that good for all vehicles, or just this particular engine type? I'm guessing the sensors are calibrated for the air requirements for each engine, so 0% means a perfect engine?
If this isn't the case, what should it be on an S8?
Quick question: the VCDS video shows a long term trim of 1.5%. Is that good for all vehicles, or just this particular engine type? I'm guessing the sensors are calibrated for the air requirements for each engine, so 0% means a perfect engine?
If this isn't the case, what should it be on an S8?
#22
As I feared, the check engine light saga continues. It's taken about 6 weeks since I had the fuel pumps changed but the CEL popped on again during acceleration. Same code as before too, Lean Condition Bank 1.
To add further mystery my fuel economy seems to be terrible. I'm averaging 13mpg in the city now when I used to get about 16-17.
I've taken the car back, yet again, to Audi and asked their tech to call me as soon as he gets the car. The only thing I can think is that I'm getting a vacuum leak which only shows itself under load. Most everything else has been done including MAF, O2 sensors, fuel pumps, and fuel filters. My patience grows thin.
To add further mystery my fuel economy seems to be terrible. I'm averaging 13mpg in the city now when I used to get about 16-17.
I've taken the car back, yet again, to Audi and asked their tech to call me as soon as he gets the car. The only thing I can think is that I'm getting a vacuum leak which only shows itself under load. Most everything else has been done including MAF, O2 sensors, fuel pumps, and fuel filters. My patience grows thin.
#23
AudiWorld Super User
As I feared, the check engine light saga continues. It's taken about 6 weeks since I had the fuel pumps changed but the CEL popped on again during acceleration. Same code as before too, Lean Condition Bank 1.
To add further mystery my fuel economy seems to be terrible. I'm averaging 13mpg in the city now when I used to get about 16-17.
I've taken the car back, yet again, to Audi and asked their tech to call me as soon as he gets the car. The only thing I can think is that I'm getting a vacuum leak which only shows itself under load. Most everything else has been done including MAF, O2 sensors, fuel pumps, and fuel filters. My patience grows thin.
To add further mystery my fuel economy seems to be terrible. I'm averaging 13mpg in the city now when I used to get about 16-17.
I've taken the car back, yet again, to Audi and asked their tech to call me as soon as he gets the car. The only thing I can think is that I'm getting a vacuum leak which only shows itself under load. Most everything else has been done including MAF, O2 sensors, fuel pumps, and fuel filters. My patience grows thin.
#27
AudiWorld Super User
If BTW you have some other code now that says lean separate from this, really you need to post specific code(s). Only specific code info I see goes back to 5/13.
Last edited by MP4.2+6.0; 08-03-2015 at 04:57 PM.
#29
That said - not crystal clear a valve cover leak brings a lean condition. I plan t build my own smoker and try to find any other intake vacuum leaks first.
Monitoring blocks 32 and 33 you can see that idle is worse than partial (which means more likely a leak versus a MAF), and right around 6% positive adjustment is when the MIL is set.
Which is a bit annoying since even Ross-Tech says +-10% is considered normal for today's cars.