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Old 08-25-2014, 12:59 PM
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Hello everyone,
Am in a bit of bother, my own doing i am afraid.
I bought the original update disk 5570 and tried updating it. On the forst disk i got this error MMo Hi/MMi/Epatch.bin eroor 176 from device. Clever sod that i am, went to the bootloader and installed to version 5150, my original version being 0900. the disk updated successfully to 5150 and being so happy tried updated to 5570 thru the bootloader again, it installed the disk and rebooted itself, but then came the calamity. The whole MMi system went blank with the pop up screen up and all the buttons dead and nothing responded after that. I have diagnosed the whole car but it wont connect to the control unit, telephone, navigation and the cd or radio. Would appreciate any help in finding out whether the control unit is fried or is there any way i can bring it back to lifebefore a dreaded visit to AUDI.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and couple of beers to boot.
Thanks in advance
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Please post a complete Auto-Scan as well as output from an Optical Bus Diagnostic and we'll have a look.
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hi Jake,
This is the diagnostic i got from the car after the freeze up. i did the optical bus diagnosis but forgot to save it. will do it first thing in the morning and post it

Sunday,24,August,2014,16:10:08:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.0.0
Data version: 20130910


VIN: WAUZZZ4E15N013516 License Plate: M500 MRA
Mileage: 129240km-80306mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 18 19 1E 25 34 36 37 38
42 46 47 4F 52 53 56 61 62 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4E15N013516 Mileage: 129240km/80306miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4E0 910 401 J HW: 4E0 907 401 B
Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0020
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: AUX3Z0DN155876
Coding: 0011973
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 224B0C03FD3A2A0EA27-8077

2 Faults Found:
18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1653 - 002 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 798 /min
Torque: 31.2 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 11.86 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Torque: 249.6 Nm
Temperature: 54.9°C

16785 - EGR System
P0401 - 002 - Insufficient Flow
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1470 /min
Torque: 105.3 Nm
Speed: 78.4 km/h
Duty Cycle: 72.7 %
Duty Cycle: 20.9 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 428.9 mg/str
Duty Cycle: 31.2 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 252.6 mg/str

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 F HW: 09L 927 156
Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 0070
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 0011140
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2541171FEC14DD36C75-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 B HW: 4E0 614 517 BC
Component: ESP 5.7 allrad H44 0510
Coding: 0008357
Shop #: WSC 02313 000 00000
VCID: 224B0C03FD3A2A0EA27-8077

1 Fault Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
000 - - - Intermittent

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131
Component: FBS AUDID3 H04 0140
Revision: 01404004 Serial number: AUX3Z0DN155876
Coding: 0265216
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: D8BFEEEB6BE630DE0C3-808D

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 3670112
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 23450907E2202306A91-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 A HW: 4E0 820 043 A
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 016 0340
Revision: 00000029 Serial number: 00000000059558
Coding: 1067009
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1B3531E7DA501BC6611-804E

1 Fault Found:
00711 - Left Footwell Flap Positioning Motor (V108)
003 - Mechanical Failure
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 151
Mileage: 122138 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.10.30
Time: 13:47:19

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.00 V
Temperature: 17.0°C
(no units): 192.0
(no units): 190.0
Temperature: 17.0°C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 L HW: 4E0 907 279 L
Component: ILM Fahrer H12 0210
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 3169F34FA8DC81962BD-8064

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
Component: Wischer WWS D3 H50 0420
Coding: 00000036
Shop #: WSC 02313

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 655 HW: 4E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0940
Coding: 0431707
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: E3C5C90722A0E306691-80B6

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 HW: 4E0 953 549
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H13 0040
Coding: 0112041
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: E5C1D71F2C949D36875-80B0

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H04 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 950 F HW: 4E0 920 950 F
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H53 0200
Revision: D05 Serial number: AUDID3DD000830
Coding: 0000008
Shop #: WSC 00783 067 57207
VCID: 275D1D179618CF26F59-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 105 A HW: 4E0 815 069 E
Component: Heizgeraet H07 0100
Revision: 0000000B Serial number: 00000009006406
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1A3B34E3D56A62CE7A7-804F

2 Faults Found:
02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01444 - Under-Voltage Shut-Off (Automatic)
000 - -

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4E0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 HW: 4E0 907 468 A
Component: Gateway H07 0070
Revision: 07 Serial number: 1600304A011DC8
Coding: FCFE5BDE3B3104
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: E5C1D71F2C949D36875-80B0

No fault code found.

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Address 1E: Media Player 2
Cannot be reached

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131
Component: FBS AUDID3 H04 0140
Revision: 01404004 Serial number: AUX3Z0DN155876
Coding: 0265216
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: D8BFEEEB6BE630DE0C3-808D

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX ELV XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 4E0-910-553.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 H HW: 4E0 907 553 F
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H06 4480
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 285F1E2B9B06C05EFC3-807D

1 Fault Found:
01398 - Signal Conductor for Central Locking; Doors Open
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 191
Mileage: 129240 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 17:47:13


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C HW: 4E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory FS H08 0060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 3670114
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 23450907E2202306A91-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135 A
Component: Dachknoten D3 H02 0090
Serial number: 00000428700006
Coding: 0035840
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1D313FFFC44415F69F5-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 802 B
Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM002 0060
Coding: 0026914
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A HW: 4E0 907 289
Component: Komfortgeraet H04 0040
Revision: 00400004 Serial number: W040412160017
Coding: 0000217
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 275D1D179618CF26F59-8072

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H03 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 A
Component: ILM Beifahrer H09 0040
Revision: Serial number: 00000000053083
Coding: 0010001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E3338F3C9420EEE86F-804B

1 Fault Found:
02072 - Control Module for Energy Management (J644)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 190
Mileage: 129240 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 14:52:00


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 801 B
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM002 0060
Coding: 0026914
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 D HW: 4E0 907 801 B
Component: EPB A4EC0230 H03 0230
Revision: --H03---
Coding: 0000221
Shop #: WSC 00751 210 91845
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

2 Faults Found:
02443 - Control Head
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 58
Reset counter: 190
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:00

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 10.97 V
Count: 40

02596 - Rear Brake Pads Worn
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 159
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:00

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 10.04 V
Count: 61


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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C HW: 4E0 915 181 C
Component: J0644 BEM H11 0510
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000015436
Shop #: WSC 00000 128 00289
VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
Component: von VA0 0501113118
Coding: 344530393135313035412056413030353031313133313138
Shop #: WSC 00000 128 00289

2 Faults Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 190
Mileage: 129240 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 07:38:57

02275 - Quiescent Current Stage 4
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 129248 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2004.03.25
Time: 18:32:32


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 801 C
Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM002 0060
Coding: 0026914
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1E3338F3C9420EEE86F-804B

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 802 C
Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM002 0060
Coding: 0026914
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1E3338F3C9420EEE86F-804B

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A HW: 4E0 919 283 B
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020
Revision: --.--.-- Serial number: 08720435202725
Coding: 0001008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2149030FF83C3116BBD-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

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Old 08-26-2014, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by soomra
hi Jake,
This is the diagnostic i got from the car after the freeze up. i did the optical bus diagnosis but forgot to save it. will do it first thing in the morning and post it
Thanks.
Before you do that Optical, please clear all DTC's and then run a new AutoScan to post.

Also you very likely need a new battery.


Originally Posted by soomra
Sunday,24,August,2014,16:10:08:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.0.0
Data version: 20130910
This is a bit out of date - recommend updating VCDS.
Ross-Tech: VCDS: Downloads: Current Release and Manual
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Just an update,
Took the car to the garage and had it diagnosed and found the control unit to be dead. mine was 4E0 035729 with software 4E0910730E and was told the an exact part number control module would work fine, searched around and found a used module for a Q7 2006 the same part number but a different software number 4L0910731K. had it fitted everything came up fine and working, but my screen wont retract simply because the module is from a Q7 and they do not have retractable screen whereas mine does...lol

I guess i am stuck with it for now, but am looking to buy or exchange my module for an exact match.
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You should replace it. Down the road you may find more things not working.
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I may have the same issue, let me know if you want to sell the control unit.
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Originally Posted by Torchwork
I may have the same issue, let me know if you want to sell the control unit.
Hi. You mean the unit for the Q7 Or the A8 one?
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Originally Posted by soomra
Hi. You mean the unit for the Q7 Or the A8 one?
I have a q7. My mmi is completely unresponsive and I'm trying to isolate what could be at fault. Not sure if I'll be able to before the New Years or not. Which part did you replace to get it working and where was it located? I'm going to start at the amp this weekend to see if that's what killed the system. Did you do the bus scan?
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Originally Posted by mishar
You should replace it. Down the road you may find more things not working.
Is there a way to reprogram the MMI control unit to the D3 Platform? Because i had the same issue, I found one on ebay and replaced it when looked up the version i saw this



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