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Old 03-21-2015, 12:13 PM
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mmi has been on this screen for 45 min now.... i'm thinking somethings up. any advise on where to go from here?
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Updates can take some time, make sure you have a charger attached or run the engine and don't press anything on mmi.
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ok... new problem. it was like this for over an hour.. i thought it was locked up. so i disconnected the battery because i couldnt get the mmi to restart. now it wont turn on...... it locked on this screen at about an hour into the update
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i get this screen, and then the mmi shuts off.. i can here a relay clicking in the back dash of the car also.

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Wow, I sure hope I'm wrong but this sounds like a "bricked" control module. Were the discs true Audi originals purchased from an authorized Audi Dealer's service parts department?

The "MOST Ring" in the top right corner may lead somewhere. I have never updated my MMI. I posted the reasons why in a thread here that discusses the MMI update. There are several that you can find using the "search" function.
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the discs were purchased from another forum member, the dealership here in grand rapids told me my software was up to date and they didnt have anything newer, also that i didnt need to update to use the current map disc. my sw version was back at 0600
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VCDS scan it, including Optical Ring scan, and post it here.

By interrupting update (disconnecting battery) you probably bricked it. There may be a chance to save it by stating update from Bootloader. To do so you need access to Hidden Menu.
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the discs were purchased from another forum member, the dealership here in grand rapids told me my software was up to date and they didnt have anything newer, also that i didnt need to update to use the current map disc. my sw version was back at 0600
If it is the Audi update disk per the other replies, which exact part # is on the disk? Net, if it is the 4140 part # it will be bricked (since you were coming direct from 0600). If it is the 3360 or 4610 part #'s, might be a chance as Misha was mentioning. As in, 4140 was essentially a fatally defective update for ordinary users, since it 100% required you to update first via 3360 or it bricked. 4610's arguable primary reason for existence was to get rid of that horrendous issue with 4140. And, the disks aren't marked w/ the version #'s, so the best way to be sure is back via the part #s. 4610 is a two disk set (with a cumulative clean up disk), so that can be a clue for that specific version. If it's one disk, pray it was 3360 or some yet older one.

As 0600 BTW, you might need other patches too (sub 1000 has some TSBs as I recall), but it still should have restarted with most functionality given prior user posts/input. And as a 2005, you should have found at least a v5 Nav disk in it; might have been later if a prior owner already replaced it. The minimum version in any MMI vehicle should be at least its model year as shipped from factory, unless somebody previously played games with the Nav disk. Net, what I am saying about the MMI is consistent w/ what I think dealer was telling you. Anything from v5 up works with later MMI updates, which in turn relate to getting AMI (aka the iPod/MP3 system) to work.

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I received the following,
33.6.0
• 4F0906961AB CD

46.1.0
• 4F0998961 CD1
• 4F0998961 CD2

the lock up happened about an hour into the first update disc i put in to get the sw to 33.6.0, once it locked i let it sit for 45min - an hour (not exactly sure, but at least 45 min)

my 7 and 8 yr old daughters are convinced the radio broke so it didnt have to here me sing any more :/ its turning into a rough day lol.

Jack88 is shipping me his VAG-CON so i can run the scans in a few days, till then it looks like i'll be singing without the background music
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Originally Posted by MiMitch
I received the following,
33.6.0
• 4F0906961AB CD

46.1.0
• 4F0998961 CD1
• 4F0998961 CD2

the lock up happened about an hour into the first update disc i put in to get the sw to 33.6.0, once it locked i let it sit for 45min - an hour (not exactly sure, but at least 45 min)

my 7 and 8 yr old daughters are convinced the radio broke so it didnt have to here me sing any more :/ its turning into a rough day lol.

Jack88 is shipping me his VAG-CON so i can run the scans in a few days, till then it looks like i'll be singing without the background music
Got it. Dealer did my 3360 (33.6.0) update when I used the old magic words "I lost my surround sound settings overnight" so I can't be sure of update times for it. Having done (sequentially) 4140 myself, yes that took around a full hour, and I think it was actually a much smaller code change than 3360. They may just reflash all of it though for any update.

I'm guessing maybe you didn't have Hidden Menu enabled? Had to be done via a VCDS tweak before it broke. If you did, see what Misha's ideas could add. Also of course, try the basic three button reset (I'm far away from my car and manual, but someone can chime in with it if you don't know it). After that, you might first just stick the 3360 disk back in there and see what happens. Literally give it at least an hour, maybe two. Definitely hook a charger to it--I remember starting to panic on one when it was taking forever and I was afraid to even open the door when I had it updating w/out a charger. After that, I suppose try loading the 4610 disk #1 and see if it will take, and after that the #2 clean up disk. 4610 did not need 3360 as an absolute prerequisite (unlike 4140), so there is a small chance you could work around it. I'm not sure anyone has brought it back in a 4610 context; it was 100% fatal with 4140, including by dealer mishaps.

Finally, same core MMI and software was used with C6 (last gen) A6 and Q7, so when you are up against the wall on something like this, worth looking at those boards too. It was the intersection of two DOA Audis on the D3 and Q7 boards that essentially confirmed the flaw in 4140. It was buried in the Audi 4140 update instructions, but Audi didn't really warn of the consequences there.

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