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Old 11-26-2015, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Crazy
Someone sure likes their red interiors!
All my cars will have red interiors one day! We almost bought a Q7 in silver on red before I pulled the trigger on the S8.
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White is a great choice - keeps cool & buffs out easy. Red is different and a classic combo. Or a nice saddle tan color. The A7 beige - doesn't look so hot.

Bearing failures - they might temperature related. I have done work on Porsche 928 driveline and if the grease goes dry, or gets toasted = rough bearings.

1. Grease/lube breakdown (worse at high temps)
2. Contamination (water, particulates etc)
3. Improper loading
4. Manufacturing defects

I was serious about IMS. Not sure what mechanism is taking them out, but if it is temp/environmental then Vancouver is the place to be buyin'.
Old 11-27-2015, 07:36 AM
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The IMS bearing that fails is a sealed greased ball bearing at one end of the IMS. It has no oil feed to it. Over time the bearing seals break down and the grease leaks out of the bearing. Bearing then fails soon after and collapses, sending metal shards around the engine destroying all oil fed bearing surfaces. In extreme cases the IMS itself also fails knocking timing out, instantly destroying the engine. Either way it's a full engine rebuild or replacement.

The turbo, GT2 and GT3 engines don't have this problem as both the IMS bearings are oil fed. Although any GT model is $$$$$$ these days, and turbos are creeping up.

Tons of info out there about which years are affected the most. Although from an outside perspective it seems they never really and truly fixed this terrible cost cutting driven design.
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I did do quite a bit of reading on the IMS. ~ Same for the 928 driveshaft, sealed bearings that is. They spec'd metal shields on a 2 or 3x 6006 bearing. Under the heat of the USA climate, the grease leaks & the bearings go south. In contrast I had cars up here in Vanc with way more miles and perfect bearings. Cool temps are good. But 928's are old cars.

I'd be curious to see a plot of mean temp vs IMS bearing failures.
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I always thought it was the RMS [Rear main seal] to look out for on the 996 cars [and even the 997 I heard]. Not sure what IMS is. With the exception of the GT3, I'm not really that interested in water cooled 911s. Wish I still had my 1997 993 although all air coolers are starting to get priced ridiculously and being in Massachusetts I doubt I'll fork over for a Porsche anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by SaltyIrishman
I always thought it was the RMS [Rear main seal] to look out for on the 996 cars [and even the 997 I heard]. Not sure what IMS is. With the exception of the GT3, I'm not really that interested in water cooled 911s. Wish I still had my 1997 993 although all air coolers are starting to get priced ridiculously and being in Massachusetts I doubt I'll fork over for a Porsche anytime soon.
It is IMS. Quick Google search will fill you in. As for the 993 those are skyrocketing in price right now so I bet you wish you still had yours!
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That white 911 pictured is a first gen 997. 911's are rock solid. The ims issue was over blown and effects mainly 996 models. I am on my second 911 and absolutely love them. No other sports car in this class can handle being driven like it was meant to without breaking. I LOVE my 2007 turbo and hope to keep it forever!
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Originally Posted by slvr_surfer
That white 911 pictured is a first gen 997. 911's are rock solid. The ims issue was over blown and effects mainly 996 models. I am on my second 911 and absolutely love them. No other sports car in this class can handle being driven like it was meant to without breaking. I LOVE my 2007 turbo and hope to keep it forever!
The IMS issue effected only 996 models that weren't turbos.
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Originally Posted by Hannibalacp82
All my cars will have red interiors one day! We almost bought a Q7 in silver on red before I pulled the trigger on the S8.
Flauta took one look at your interior and said eeeeeeek! Oh well.
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Originally Posted by 911 Crazy
Flauta took one look at your interior and said eeeeeeek! Oh well.
Cut and run...all the marriage counselling in the world can't fix this!!!



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