Used D3s / Questions
10-06-2014, 06:14 AM
#21
D4 in PA
In the event someone says something to me about what I drive, I let them know it is eleven years old and has 230,000 miles on the clock. I also drive a '01 VW Beetle. Also, when I am heading to the ghetto and have to park there, I keep the A8 in my eyesight or I take the bug.
10-10-2014, 03:56 PM
#22
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
So, there is this super-clean, 1-owner 2007 S8 with 78k miles I am interested in - I testdrove today. It has premium package, leather appointment upgrade, 4-zone climate control;( no B&O sound system). Carfax indicates all scheduled servicing done at Audi dealership. (Brake fluid flushed/changed, Cup holder replaced, Battery replaced, Rear brake pads replaced, Interior trim repaired at 71,xxx miles). Other than the VCDS-reported faults below (perhaps intermittent and voltage related?), everything else seems OK. Do you guys think this is a good deal at $30k? I am thinking the absence of B&O sound system (which I don't really care for) should bring the price down a bit. Thanks in advance.
Code:
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 B HW: 4E0 820 043 G
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 017 0450
Revision: 00000032 Serial number: 00000000108578
Coding: 0106833
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1C3D2AA0DF695BFE675-8049
2 Faults Found:
00065 - Rear Left Footwell Heater (Z42)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 119
Mileage: 126143 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.04
Time: 09:52:23
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.30 V
00066 - Rear Right Footwell Heater (Z43)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 119
Mileage: 126143 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.04
Time: 09:52:42
Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 13.70 V
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 D HW: 4E0 907 289 D
Component: Komfortgeraet H07 0010
Revision: 00100007 Serial number: W040611100028
Coding: 0048702
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A51FC78853DB54EE59-807F
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853
Component: Heckdeckel P27H08 0090
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H05 0020
1 Fault Found:
02107 - Trunk or Luggage Compartment Opening Motor (V254)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 126143 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.08
Time: 13:01:03
Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C HW: 4E0 915 181 C
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0550
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000023139
Shop #: WSC 08057 444 57269
VCID: 20451E50F3017F1EBBD-8075
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
Component: von VA0 320323N05R
Coding: 34453039313531303541205641303332303332334E303552
Shop #: WSC 08307 444 124059
1 Fault Found:
02256 - Quiescent Current
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110001
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 126159 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.10.08
Time: 20:36:15
10-10-2014, 05:55 PM
#23
AudiWorld Super User
First three faulty codes are real. Electric footwell heaters are often dead, as well the trunk lid motor. I am not sure about the heaters but trunk lid motor has to be replaced (~$460).
10-10-2014, 06:09 PM
#24
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
Thanks mishar. Quite interesting - I take it that is the motor that allows the trunk to open when you hit the button (either by driver's door or key fob)? It opened and closed at the different times I tested it. Weird.
10-10-2014, 06:51 PM
#25
AudiWorld Super User
10-11-2014, 09:30 AM
#26
AudiWorld Super User
Footwell heaters...
Agreed they seem to show on many a scan.
As part of my car clean up to get 100% code free, I did mine. First one side, then the other coded with the same intermittent failures. I cleared the codes literally 10 or 20 times over a year or so, checked the connector at one point before I bought the parts just to be sure. They are pricy--hundreds for each one--but very easy to change out. Just move respective front seat forward and the relevant air vent is right there. The heater unit is built into some ducting and sits just below. A little simple screwdriver work and a connector and you are done in 10 minutes.
Objectively, the units aren't critical and are really just supplementary to the conventional underfloor ducting arriving from the heater panels up front; part of Piech's HVAC air flow fanaticism built into various D3 design elements.
As part of my car clean up to get 100% code free, I did mine. First one side, then the other coded with the same intermittent failures. I cleared the codes literally 10 or 20 times over a year or so, checked the connector at one point before I bought the parts just to be sure. They are pricy--hundreds for each one--but very easy to change out. Just move respective front seat forward and the relevant air vent is right there. The heater unit is built into some ducting and sits just below. A little simple screwdriver work and a connector and you are done in 10 minutes.
Objectively, the units aren't critical and are really just supplementary to the conventional underfloor ducting arriving from the heater panels up front; part of Piech's HVAC air flow fanaticism built into various D3 design elements.
10-21-2014, 12:25 PM
#27
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
' 09 S8
For a 1-owner 95+ K miles S8 that has a couple issues come up at PPI - done by Audi dealership - ( inoperable front parking sensor, worn/torn UCA bushings, broken sunroof guides, leaky nozzle at headlight washer pump and rear brakes at less than 50%), any insights on potential cost to fix? I am trying to determine if it's worth the hassle or just keep looking. Thanks.
10-21-2014, 01:19 PM
#28
AudiWorld Super User
I like to buy and enjoy the car instead of worrying about fixing it...
regardless how much I paid for it. To my experience , I've had many Audis so far, if things broke, it's misused and I don't like cars that are misused (abused). Again, to me, they're walking wounded, even you fixed, they're never be the same, IMO.
Cheers and good luck,
Louis
Cheers and good luck,
Louis
10-21-2014, 02:10 PM
#29
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
Louis, I do appreciate your insights...
. I guess the true issue-free, ultra-clean used Audi is quite the unicorn, though a few do pop-up every now and then.
. I guess the true issue-free, ultra-clean used Audi is quite the unicorn, though a few do pop-up every now and then.
10-21-2014, 02:44 PM
#30
Mine does this -- we just give it a bit of a "manual" assist (up or down). If the car is terrific otherwise, seems like a great deal. No B&O on ours -- the Bose is just fine. The extended leather package is nifty and in keeping with the nature of the car.