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Old 06-20-2014, 06:24 PM   #1
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Default WTF!?! My D3 barely started after sitting a day and with a brand new battery

Well I just went out and started the D3 in the garage and I had the radio and stuff playing for a few minutes and had the system will shut down if the engine is not started in 3 minutes. I try to start it and nothing and the lights were dim and I kept trying like 3 times and after the fourth time it started cranking real slow and it started. I bought the battery from advance auto with a 3 yr replacement warranty for $113 with tax and exchange since the dealer tested my old battery to be bad when it failed a load test. There's no way I'm going to pay $207 plus tax for a dealer battery which only has 1 yr 12,000 mile free replacement. I know I didn't leave anything on to partially drain it.

What do you think could the problem be?? I hooked everything up on the battery like it should like factory. Does something else need to be programmed for it not to do that like VCDS?? Ok thank you.
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I would load test the new battery. It could be just a bad battery. I would eliminate the battery first.

It could also be a starter going bad. You said you tried a few times and nothing happened but then it cranked slowly and started.
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Default Test the battery - measure the voltage - charge it to

see if it holds - It could be sitting for a long time and it's a bad battery. Does your car have any after market devices - Music player and such? Original Audi devices will turn off if not used, but the after market devices may not. Hope it's something simple.

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I just got the battery put in like 3 days ago and the car is bone stock with no add ons. The starter is fine because when I tried to crank the lights were dim and finally it kicked in and started. It is a 900CCA battery and a 1000CA I started up an hr or so ago and let it idle for almost an hour. I'm wondering if I left out a step by not reprogramming the battery possibly?? Maybe it doesn't have enough reserve capacity. I'm thinking I haven't driven it enough on the new battery and only put like 3-5 miles on it since then. The battery has been manufactured on 3/14.
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Take that lady for a long ride, get her going and charge her up. I think you haven't driven her enough.
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1. Yes, you should code the battery to the car. You need VAG COM. If it isn't an Audi battery, the std. technique is to just increase the prior stored battery serial number by 1. Search archives as needed. The car will probably eventually figure it out if you don't code it, but without doing so your car charging system will behave as it would with your old battery. Thus, it may think your battery can't hold much juice still.

2. Make sure you hooked up the little wire that is attached to the positive lead right at the battery area. If you didn't, or the wire is (or got) broken, the charging system will act up.
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1. Yes, you should code the battery to the car. You need VAG COM. If it isn't an Audi battery, the std. technique is to just increase the prior stored battery serial number by 1. Search archives as needed. The car will probably eventually figure it out if you don't code it, but without doing so your car charging system will behave as it would with your old battery. Thus, it may think your battery can't hold much juice still.

2. Make sure you hooked up the little wire that is attached to the positive lead right at the battery area. If you didn't, or the wire is (or got) broken, the charging system will act up.
Well that wire on the positive terminal is hooked up so we can rule that out. When I change the serial number, do I change the last digit or first digit by 1?? Ok thanks. I'll try to drive it for a little bit this weekend since the weather should be nice and will give me a good excuse to drive it .
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I bought the battery from advance auto with a 3 yr replacement warranty for $113 with tax and exchange since the dealer tested my old battery to be bad when it failed a load test. There's no way I'm going to pay $207 plus tax for a dealer battery which only has 1 yr 12,000 mile free replacement.
The Audi battery that came in my car is huge. Bigger than the Suburban or Sequoia batteries. Just from physical size it is worth 207.00. An Interstate or other good quality battery will be 150.00.
I quit buying store brand batteries from Sam's, Walmart, Autozone, or Advanced. Several failed real early.
But either you need to drive the car and fully charge it up, or this is why you put a new battery in three days ago.
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Default Just get a good battery charger and charge it

I got this battery charger which can tell what % of the battery level. When the battery seems low, I just charge it with 2A for a few hours, when it shows 99%, I'd disconnect it.
My old original battery would last the whole week without driving and still starts without any problems.

Use DVM to check voltage of the battery

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Well I figured it out. I changed the serial number on the last digit by increasing it by 1. We will see what happens from here on out and my battery level meter should be a little more accurate with the change. I have always used advance auto batteries and I've never had problems with it except I had this mercury villager van for 3 yrs and for the last year I barely drove it and there were times when I had my tools in there and leave my hatch open and the lights stay on and the battery drains quicker because I barely drove it which is my own fault. I finally decided one day to warranty the battery out and they said it needs charged and I tried that and I knew the guys there and they hooked me up with a new battery free of charge. Other than that I've never had problems with them, I know those everstart batteries from Wal-Mart are garbage and usually last right at or right after the free replacement warranty.
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2K, this car is way too much trouble, I think it's time you bought another one
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Last digit is the "normal" hack.
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2K, this car is way too much trouble, I think it's time you bought another one
Well it's partially my fault with the battery problem so everything seems to be alright. Looking to trade?? LOL. Somebody has to make me a crazy too good to be true offer for me to sell mine since it's rare. I just have to drive it more.
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Also verify that the rear seat heaters are turned off. I found out the hard way that they do not auto turn off and will drain the battery.
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I've just came back from a 5 week vacation and she started just like she was running yesterday. I have a few months old battery, the cheapest one I found. I believe your problem is that you didn't fully charge that new battery. They come charged from a factory but loose much of it sitting on a shelf. Unfortunately it can be bad too, but there is warranty for that.

By the way, there is no battery that can power A8 radio (and the rest of bells and whistles working in the background) for any longer time (may be an hour) and stay charged.
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I've just came back from a 5 week vacation and she started just like she was running yesterday. I have a few months old battery, the cheapest one I found. I believe your problem is that you didn't fully charge that new battery. They come charged from a factory but loose much of it sitting on a shelf. Unfortunately it can be bad too, but there is warranty for that.

By the way, there is no battery that can power A8 radio (and the rest of bells and whistles working in the background) for any longer time (may be an hour) and stay charged.
Wow that's a hell of a long vacation. I'm sure you enjoyed it a lot. What brand battery do you have?? I drove the car for a 1/2 day yesterday and it started right up no problem. Sometimes I go in the garage and turn the radio on and the ignition on when the lights are on auto and was draining it a little. I'll get close to an hr and I get that message to start the engine. There are a lot of modules and other stuff always running like you said.
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I shut off the HVAC, kill the auto lights if I have them on, turn off the DRL's (though mine are the lower power W12 factory early LED's), turn off seat ventilation (or heating) if on, disable radio AND close the screen. I think the stereo in general and then the screen itself are big power sucks, plus the lighting if on of course. That always gets me well over an hour w/ no warning stuff. I get the warning more with various of that stuff still on if I am doing a long diagnostic cycle. Lots of door opening and closing that keeps resetting the interior lighting timer and the exterior comfort lighting stuff are two more, again defeatable for a longer session.
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Default I was watching tv in the car for 45 minutes waiting for family shopping...

then I remembered this problem and it scared me. Started the car up and everything is still fine... It's still original battery since I couldn't find any battery receipt or records from the first owner.

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then I remembered this problem and it scared me. Started the car up and everything is still fine... It's still original battery since I couldn't find any battery receipt or records from the first owner.

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Wow you're still on the original battery?? Wow that's crazy. Plus you drive your car everyday so that makes a huge difference. I drive mine occasionally so I can let it sit for close to a week and the battery meter is down to 1 bar but it still starts up but then it goes to sleep after a few days or so.
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