Brake pads, DIY?
#1
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Brake pads, DIY?
Just had my brake pad light come on. I assume its the front pads and the car is at 62,000 km.
On my old D2 it was a really simple job to change but I cant find any details of how to do it on the D4, there is some on youtube for the D3.
Anyone have the instructions/advice for the D4?
On my old D2 it was a really simple job to change but I cant find any details of how to do it on the D4, there is some on youtube for the D3.
Anyone have the instructions/advice for the D4?
#2
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Happened to see this "how to" on C7 S6 board. Other than the decals on caliper, same set up for C7 S6's or S7's.
How-to: Installing brake pads on an S6/7 - AudiWorld Forums
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#3
If it's the back pads, you're going to need a scan tool (I used VAG-COM) to put the real parking break control into the service position. Otherwise, this was very much like my old A6 - and I'm assuming most other Audis. If the caliper cradle needs to be removed (changing the disc), you'll probably need a triple-square tool.
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Great, one step closer even though it seems a bit non DIY for someone like me. Those bolts usually sit very tight but maybe I can make it work.
Checking supply outside the Audi dealership on the pads makes me confused thought, there are quite a few options and examples are Brembo, ATE, TRW, Bosch, Zimmerman to name a few that I think are considered good. I am pretty sure one of these are the actual OEM's but don't know which ones.
This site has a few localized versions and a lot of options on the pads, any thoughts on a possible preference (OEM type pads)
Brake Pad Set for AUDI A8 (4H_) 4.2 FSI quattro - from 11.2009 371 hp ? Brake System
Checking supply outside the Audi dealership on the pads makes me confused thought, there are quite a few options and examples are Brembo, ATE, TRW, Bosch, Zimmerman to name a few that I think are considered good. I am pretty sure one of these are the actual OEM's but don't know which ones.
This site has a few localized versions and a lot of options on the pads, any thoughts on a possible preference (OEM type pads)
Brake Pad Set for AUDI A8 (4H_) 4.2 FSI quattro - from 11.2009 371 hp ? Brake System
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If it's the back pads, you're going to need a scan tool (I used VAG-COM) to put the real parking break control into the service position. Otherwise, this was very much like my old A6 - and I'm assuming most other Audis. If the caliper cradle needs to be removed (changing the disc), you'll probably need a triple-square tool.
#6
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Great, one step closer even though it seems a bit non DIY for someone like me. Those bolts usually sit very tight but maybe I can make it work.
Checking supply outside the Audi dealership on the pads makes me confused thought, there are quite a few options and examples are Brembo, ATE, TRW, Bosch, Zimmerman to name a few that I think are considered good. I am pretty sure one of these are the actual OEM's but don't know which ones.
This site has a few localized versions and a lot of options on the pads, any thoughts on a possible preference (OEM type pads)
Brake Pad Set for AUDI A8 (4H_) 4.2 FSI quattro - from 11.2009 371 hp ? Brake System
Checking supply outside the Audi dealership on the pads makes me confused thought, there are quite a few options and examples are Brembo, ATE, TRW, Bosch, Zimmerman to name a few that I think are considered good. I am pretty sure one of these are the actual OEM's but don't know which ones.
This site has a few localized versions and a lot of options on the pads, any thoughts on a possible preference (OEM type pads)
Brake Pad Set for AUDI A8 (4H_) 4.2 FSI quattro - from 11.2009 371 hp ? Brake System
OE pads almost always come down to: highly reliable, reasonable wear and good progressive feel--neither grabby nor slippery. Oh, and one more little thing...dusty. Yep, on my S8 so far--check all the boxes, dust included. Thus I usually look at two principle choices and have used both a lot: dealer OE, or EBC Red. My EBC experience is they basically check the same boxes as OE except for one--less dust. Not no dust, but less. Like as much dust on the fronts as the rear OE's generate, as opposed to the 3 or 5x as much the OE front ones do. There are some other brands that are supposedly lower dust too, typically ceramic compounds. But, some of those have reputations and user experience that also come back as "slippery." Yep you can make them wear a long time and not dust much, but if you go too hard for better wear and/or less dust they can get slippery in feel. Slippery meaning more pedal application pressure, not a feeling they are biting in some when you want it, and maybe some unsettling question as you press down of how effective they ultimately are.
Finally on D4's a fair amount of this is academic, at least in front. There apparently are not really very many choices out there. Yes, same calipers and thus pads as other Audis with 4.0T or earlier 4.2 I guess (or if 3.0T then like SQ5). But not as many offerings as I have seen with prior Audis. However, since I usually go either OE or EBC, I haven't checked into it much besides already confirming EBC does have front and rear fitments for 4.0T/W12/S8.
Last edited by MP4.2+6.0; 06-15-2016 at 09:44 PM.
#7
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This is still confusing, I am in northern Europe and by the looks of it I can get the EBC red's however some of the other options are likely OEM's de-branded but there it no way to understand what to get.
I have Brembo brakes but if I sort the pads for Brembo it says they are either TRW-Lucas or Teves.
What does Brembo have to do with Lucas or Teves?
I have Brembo brakes but if I sort the pads for Brembo it says they are either TRW-Lucas or Teves.
What does Brembo have to do with Lucas or Teves?
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#8
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This is still confusing, I am in northern Europe and by the looks of it I can get the EBC red's however some of the other options are likely OEM's de-branded but there it no way to understand what to get.
I have Brembo brakes but if I sort the pads for Brembo it says they are either TRW-Lucas or Teves.
What does Brembo have to do with Lucas or Teves?
I have Brembo brakes but if I sort the pads for Brembo it says they are either TRW-Lucas or Teves.
What does Brembo have to do with Lucas or Teves?
Net, buy by basic OE/non-OE and compound. First decide OE (meaning dealer to be sure) vs. non-OE. Then in non OE/dealer type you can sort between the organic/conventional ones and the ceramics. OE used to be organic, but circa 2014 at least some seemed to change to a ceramic, or rather somewhat lower dust which usually translates to ceramic. Over years and having tried some others, I always end up back at EBC red.
Last edited by MP4.2+6.0; 11-10-2016 at 08:23 PM.
#9
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Ok, I will check the dealer prices on Monday and if not to bad I'll probably get them.
Another q though, I hooked up the VCDS just now and expected to find a code indicating if it was the front or the rears but get nothing?
How do I find out where the brake pad warning light have gotten triggered?
Another q though, I hooked up the VCDS just now and expected to find a code indicating if it was the front or the rears but get nothing?
How do I find out where the brake pad warning light have gotten triggered?
#10
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Figured there was no other way then to have a closer look and it turns out I got ATE calipers in the front and TRW in the rear. The front pads still had 5-6mm on them but the rear pads seemed to only have a mm or two so for now I am assuming its the rear pads that triggered the warning light.