A3 vs S3, worth the extra $?
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- If you want luxury over sporty go with the A3.
- If you want a little sporty but mostly luxury get the A3 Prestige, or equip the A3 with the Sports Package.
- If you want more sporty over luxury go with the S3.
- If you want the pure sports car, no luxury, wait for the RS3 aka Clubsport A3.
- If you want the fuel saving car with a spice of luxury get the A3 Clean Diesel.
- If you want the pure energy saving car wait for the E-tron Hatchback A3.
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Well, my decision was slightly easier since I wanted the convertible. The. Choice was between getting the A3 now or waiting for the POSSIBILITY of getting an S3 cab.
Most everyone here is a "car enthusiast" no reason to make fun of people that didn't want to spend extra on the S model. Here are my reasons for not waiting.
Bigger breaks are good, but being able to fit 17 inch winter tires (or even 16s) is also a nice option and will save you a couple hundred. I haven't heard of anyone fitting 17s over the s3s brakes, but there are definitely people running 16s on their a3s (the wheel I wanted, came in smallest at 17).
The base speed of the A3 is underwhelming in drive, but decent in sport. After my first oil change I will likely get the car tuned. S3 is a pretty fast car as is, and I probably wouldnt spend money upgrading the performance. Compared to a 335 or An Evo, the a3 is not going to be fun enough, but it's still sportier than 90% of the other cars on the road, it's "good enough" to put you into any hole in traffic. Pushing the car to 100% is not safe on a public road. That's "good enough" for most people.
Magnetic ride would be nice, but the a3 sport suspension is a nice compromise, softer than the s3 in dynamic, much harder/fun than the a3 without it. Looks good and still handling 4+ inches of unplowed winter roads without plowing.
Looks wise, I do not like the look of the s-line on the A3, nor do I trust the long-term reliability of the LED headlights, I was happy to be able to stick to a lower level package to save money for things that I didnt want.
For things like a backup camera, I'd rather pay 250 than 1400, no arguments there... Auto-parking would be nice if you couldnt.... But most car enthusiasts are going to put in the effort to learn.
Most everyone here is a "car enthusiast" no reason to make fun of people that didn't want to spend extra on the S model. Here are my reasons for not waiting.
Bigger breaks are good, but being able to fit 17 inch winter tires (or even 16s) is also a nice option and will save you a couple hundred. I haven't heard of anyone fitting 17s over the s3s brakes, but there are definitely people running 16s on their a3s (the wheel I wanted, came in smallest at 17).
The base speed of the A3 is underwhelming in drive, but decent in sport. After my first oil change I will likely get the car tuned. S3 is a pretty fast car as is, and I probably wouldnt spend money upgrading the performance. Compared to a 335 or An Evo, the a3 is not going to be fun enough, but it's still sportier than 90% of the other cars on the road, it's "good enough" to put you into any hole in traffic. Pushing the car to 100% is not safe on a public road. That's "good enough" for most people.
Magnetic ride would be nice, but the a3 sport suspension is a nice compromise, softer than the s3 in dynamic, much harder/fun than the a3 without it. Looks good and still handling 4+ inches of unplowed winter roads without plowing.
Looks wise, I do not like the look of the s-line on the A3, nor do I trust the long-term reliability of the LED headlights, I was happy to be able to stick to a lower level package to save money for things that I didnt want.
For things like a backup camera, I'd rather pay 250 than 1400, no arguments there... Auto-parking would be nice if you couldnt.... But most car enthusiasts are going to put in the effort to learn.
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Anyway, surprised to hear you say the A3 performance is underwhelming. My B7 A4 S-line with the 2.0T and ONLY 200hp is very spirited. But maybe that is because it is mated to the 6 speed manual? The based A3 with 220 hp on tap in a smaller car should be even better. I've only driven a couple of S3s and they were crazy fast. I have to get some seat time on this A3 sport at my local dealer and compare.
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The list that differentiates the 2 is quite a long one.
Let me give it a try, I'll put a price next to it as far as how I value the items
1) Bigger better looking brakes. This includes the calipers and the rotors. $1,000
2) more powerful engine complete with stronger internal components. $2,000
3) Stronger transmission $1500
4) Less restrictive exhaust $500
5) lowered suspension (for better handling) $500
6) faster
7) handles better
8) looks better
9) sounds better
$6,000 Total
Some folks would actually give the items above even higher dollar values. And I'm sure that I missed plenty more.
Let me give it a try, I'll put a price next to it as far as how I value the items
1) Bigger better looking brakes. This includes the calipers and the rotors. $1,000
2) more powerful engine complete with stronger internal components. $2,000
3) Stronger transmission $1500
4) Less restrictive exhaust $500
5) lowered suspension (for better handling) $500
6) faster
7) handles better
8) looks better
9) sounds better
$6,000 Total
Some folks would actually give the items above even higher dollar values. And I'm sure that I missed plenty more.
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Well said, but some people.......
Anyway, surprised to hear you say the A3 performance is underwhelming. My B7 A4 S-line with the 2.0T and ONLY 200hp is very spirited. But maybe that is because it is mated to the 6 speed manual? The based A3 with 220 hp on tap in a smaller car should be even better. I've only driven a couple of S3s and they were crazy fast. I have to get some seat time on this A3 sport at my local dealer and compare.
Anyway, surprised to hear you say the A3 performance is underwhelming. My B7 A4 S-line with the 2.0T and ONLY 200hp is very spirited. But maybe that is because it is mated to the 6 speed manual? The based A3 with 220 hp on tap in a smaller car should be even better. I've only driven a couple of S3s and they were crazy fast. I have to get some seat time on this A3 sport at my local dealer and compare.
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