NY Times: VW Is Said to Cheat on Diesel Emissions; U.S. Orders Big Recall
10-04-2015, 08:13 PM
#51
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It wasn't a shortfall of engines, it was because they only discovered they wouldn't pass emissions testing after spending years and millions in development.
10-04-2015, 08:52 PM
#52
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I'll still buy Audis though.
10-10-2015, 08:23 AM
#54
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While this may be accurate, the article also states "There is no evidence of illegal activity (on the other brands), such as the use of defeat devices as used by Volkwagen." This would set VAG apart form the other potential offenders as to intent and would affect the punishments.
10-11-2015, 01:15 PM
#55
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While this may be accurate, the article also states "There is no evidence of illegal activity (on the other brands), such as the use of defeat devices as used by Volkwagen." This would set VAG apart form the other potential offenders as to intent and would affect the punishments.
But it is just a matter of time till they find software 'tweaks' done by other manufacturers. Again, this doesn't lower the moral plumb line but having a vehicle in acceleration, under load, forced airflow into the motor, make it tough to meet standards measured on rollers, just a not real-world test, seem like every company would need to tweak their software... my opinion is that VW went too far AND got caught.
More to come on this I'm sure.
10-11-2015, 06:52 PM
#56
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It's not that a manf. tweaks their software to pass the tests, it's when they cheat by removing the tweaks afterward. While it's possible that other manf. have engaged in this type of cheating, I suspect not many of them are as dumb as VAG to think they would get away with it. Unless it's reported down the road that any other manf. is caught having deliberately done this, it's innocent until proven guilty.
10-12-2015, 10:43 PM
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11-17-2015, 12:45 PM
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Ford Faces Trial on MPG Estimates as Judge Refuses to Toss Suit - Bloomberg Business
I feel much better now that the manufacture of BOTH our cars are being sued for fraud.
We tow a Ford Cmax behind our motor home.
Ford has already sent us 2 "Goodwill" checks,
they didn't work , I dought the Goodwill cards from VW will change the attitude of very many of the VW/Audi diesel owners.
The TDI was on our short list, sure glad it didn't make the cut
I feel much better now that the manufacture of BOTH our cars are being sued for fraud.
We tow a Ford Cmax behind our motor home.
Ford has already sent us 2 "Goodwill" checks,
they didn't work , I dought the Goodwill cards from VW will change the attitude of very many of the VW/Audi diesel owners.The TDI was on our short list, sure glad it didn't make the cut
11-17-2015, 01:42 PM
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Ford Faces Trial on MPG Estimates as Judge Refuses to Toss Suit - Bloomberg Business
I feel much better now that the manufacture of BOTH our cars are being sued for fraud.
We tow a Ford Cmax behind our motor home.
Ford has already sent us 2 "Goodwill" checks, they didn't work , I dought the Goodwill cards from VW will change the attitude of very many of the VW/Audi diesel owners.
The TDI was on our short list, sure glad it didn't make the cut
I feel much better now that the manufacture of BOTH our cars are being sued for fraud.
We tow a Ford Cmax behind our motor home.
Ford has already sent us 2 "Goodwill" checks,
they didn't work , I dought the Goodwill cards from VW will change the attitude of very many of the VW/Audi diesel owners.The TDI was on our short list, sure glad it didn't make the cut
11-17-2015, 05:27 PM
#60
...others have been caught in the past for similar issues. link to old one below. if you search, you will find others.
http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production...nts/defeat.pdf
http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production...nts/defeat.pdf