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Old 05-15-2014, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default New S5 Premium Plus with...exact same features as Prestige?

I'm looking into leasing a new S5. Initially I told the dealer I wanted the Prestige but they said that the one they have is a Premium Plus with everything the Prestige comes with (B&O, push button start, backup camera, etc.) EXCEPT for the adjusting headlights. They also mentioned that Prestige's aren't made much anymore since the Premium Plus can come with everything the Prestige has while lowering the price of the vehicle a bit.

Is this true? If that's the case why would Audi make two variants at all? I thought the point of the Prestige was to get features that aren't available for the Premium Plus...?

Additionally, I'd like to get everyone's opinion on the current lease offer I have from them. A lot has changed in my life recently so this is the first time I've ever considered or looked into leasing; I was always a buyer in the past. I was told that with $5k down for a 36 month 15,000 mile lease the payment would be in the mid 800's. This is on a 61.9k with the sales guy offering me $3000 off instantly. How does that compare to what other people have gotten for leasing offers? I'm hoping when I go in there this weekend and run the numbers my good credit score will lower things a bit. What I've gotten so far has just been estimates over the phone or email.

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You don't get the active headlamps and you cannot get the rear sunshade (is an option).
I think they still are making it. At the beginning (early models), the difference was higher, but then new standard equipment was added.
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I'm looking into leasing a new S5. Initially I told the dealer I wanted the Prestige but they said that the one they have is a Premium Plus with everything the Prestige comes with (B&O, push button start, backup camera, etc.) EXCEPT for the adjusting headlights. They also mentioned that Prestige's aren't made much anymore since the Premium Plus can come with everything the Prestige has while lowering the price of the vehicle a bit.

Is this true? If that's the case why would Audi make two variants at all? I thought the point of the Prestige was to get features that aren't available for the Premium Plus...?

Additionally, I'd like to get everyone's opinion on the current lease offer I have from them. A lot has changed in my life recently so this is the first time I've ever considered or looked into leasing; I was always a buyer in the past. I was told that with $5k down for a 36 month 15,000 mile lease the payment would be in the mid 800's. This is on a 61.9k with the sales guy offering me $3000 off instantly. How does that compare to what other people have gotten for leasing offers? I'm hoping when I go in there this weekend and run the numbers my good credit score will lower things a bit. What I've gotten so far has just been estimates over the phone or email.

Thanks!
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The only way to get the adaptive headlights is with a Prestige.

I like the adaptive headlights.

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Here are my lease numbers:

2013 S5 (~60K): $5K down, 36 months, 680/month (includes taxes, etc.)
2012 A6 3.0T (~61K) $5K down, 36 months, 684/month (includes, taxes, etc.)

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have you leased before?
I have not. This is the first time in my life where it's become a possibility for me.
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Here are my lease numbers:

2013 S5 (~60K): $5K down, 36 months, 680/month (includes taxes, etc.)
2012 A6 3.0T (~61K) $5K down, 36 months, 684/month (includes, taxes, etc.)

Audi Pacific, Torrance, CA (Fred Vand and Bernie Clare)

Joining NA Audi Club is a great deal as you get rebates from Audi, now achieved through a a special discounting plan.
Thanks for the comparison Eric. How did you get your monthly payment so low with the S5 lease?
I'm hoping to get a more accurate number this Saturday once they take my credit score and personalized interest rate into account. I also need to ask them what the residual is.
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From my understanding, the Prestige trim is still very much available and in another forum where they posted the 2015 order guide, it was still there. Ironically enough, I have 2013 S5 Premium Plus with most of the options. I did not get the Prestige just to save a few thousand on equipment I did not really want. My car stickered for around $59,000 with a 39 month lease and 12,000 miles for $776 per month (no money down, tax not rolled into the payment).
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From my understanding, the Prestige trim is still very much available and in another forum where they posted the 2015 order guide, it was still there. Ironically enough, I have 2013 S5 Premium Plus with most of the options. I did not get the Prestige just to save a few thousand on equipment I did not really want. My car stickered for around $59,000 with a 39 month lease and 12,000 miles for $776 per month (no money down, tax not rolled into the payment).
Okay, that's good to know.
Do most of you guys go over on miles at the end of your lease or does Audi let you get out of them early? Some of the leases like 39 months at 12,000 miles sound very difficult to stay within.
How easy is it to get out of a lease for an S5 with Audi? Do they hold their value pretty well after a few years?
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For going over mileage, you kind of have to know what your yearly driving patterns are. That said, if you stay 'in house' at lease end, VW/Audi is very forgiving in getting out of a lease early. I traded in my 06 GTI to get an 10 A5 and then the A5 to get the S5 and both were a good four months early. They also barely looked at the cars. Now, well before that, I had a 99 GTI which at the lease end I gave back to get an 03 MINI Cooper S, and for that car I did go over the mileage and I had to pay and they also went over it with a fine tooth comb
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I'm looking into leasing a new S5. Initially I told the dealer I wanted the Prestige but they said that the one they have is a Premium Plus with everything the Prestige comes with (B&O, push button start, backup camera, etc.) EXCEPT for the adjusting headlights. They also mentioned that Prestige's aren't made much anymore since the Premium Plus can come with everything the Prestige has while lowering the price of the vehicle a bit.

Is this true? If that's the case why would Audi make two variants at all? I thought the point of the Prestige was to get features that aren't available for the Premium Plus...?

Additionally, I'd like to get everyone's opinion on the current lease offer I have from them. A lot has changed in my life recently so this is the first time I've ever considered or looked into leasing; I was always a buyer in the past. I was told that with $5k down for a 36 month 15,000 mile lease the payment would be in the mid 800's. This is on a 61.9k with the sales guy offering me $3000 off instantly. How does that compare to what other people have gotten for leasing offers? I'm hoping when I go in there this weekend and run the numbers my good credit score will lower things a bit. What I've gotten so far has just been estimates over the phone or email.

Thanks!
when I ordered my 2014, the only 4 options included in prestige over premium plus were adaptive lights, MMI, side assist, and B&O audio. I didn't need adaptive lights or side assist so I ordered premium plus and added those two options and saved myself $2400 which I spent on the sport diff, full leather inetrior, black optic, and carbon atlas inlays
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This might be a stupid question but when they say 15k miles for 36 months, is that 15k miles PER YEAR for three years or is it 15k miles TOTAL spread out over 36 months?

Also, I'm attaching a picture of the sticker for the car. They didn't really scan it well but it gives you an idea of what comes in the car. Sounds like I was wrong about the Prestige, I thought there was so much more you couldn't get with the premium plus.
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It is the total mileage at the end of the three years...in other words, 45,000 miles
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Does that say 'Supercharged badges' for $145? Is that a factory option as I never heard of it...
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It is the total mileage at the end of the three years...in other words, 45,000 miles
Perfect! For some reason I thought it meant you get 12K miles over 36 months. Leasing should be a no brainer for me at this point.
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Rule #1 - never put any money down on a lease. I have leased 8 vehicles and drove them off the lot with zero out-of-pocket.
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Make sure you get the money factor from the dealer, as well as the residual value after the lease term (should be a percentage). Premium+ actually gets a bit higher residual than the Prestiges for some reason....
And if you add audicare, it adds another 1% to residual value.

Sidenote: 3,000 off is less than 5% discount, a lot of people have been able to get 6% or even more.
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Thanks for the help and suggestions everyone. I was able to get the dealer to give me a bigger percentage off based on what jrabakker said. I ended up sealing the deal this weekend on a 2014 S5 with pretty much everything except the adaptive headlights for a little over $63k. I was told the residual is about 56% and with the money factor the overall interest is about 2.5%. I chose to do 12k a year for 36 months. The payment should be about $850-ish with almost nothing down.
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Could someone that has been able to get out of their lease a little early explain how they were able to do it? I was told that since the car holds its value pretty well I should be able to step into another new S5 early if I wanted. They weren't 100% clear on how it worked and I didn't ask as many questions as I probably should have. If your car's value holds like it should can you really get into another new car without paying any extra fees or costs to end your current lease early?
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It really depends if the current value of the car is greater than what are the remaining payments on the lease. If you are running under the mileage and it is towards the end of the lease (6 months or less), you may have a shot. As I had stated in a previous post, keeping it in the VW/Audi family and you would be trading it in for another VW/Audi product, they will most likely would be able to work with you. The best advice I can give you, be prepared to pay for the full term of the lease and if you want to and are able to get out of it early, that's just a bonus
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