Sudden dead battery
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Sudden dead battery
I have an '01 Allroad 2.7T. I drove the car about a week and a half ago, and had no problems with starting. I had the car parked on a hill (passenger side was higher) since then. I went to start it two nights ago, and it was completely dead. No lights, clicking, even the alarm lights on the doors weren't blinking. I was able to jump it , and the volt gauge jumped over 14 volts. I let it idle for a while, then ran for gas. The car started fine at the station. By the time I got home, the volts were just over 12.
My question is about the suspension. Does it function when the car is off? As soon as I connected the jumper cables, are heard the purge valve on the pump release. With my front bags leaking, I'm hoping the car isn't trying to level itself while parked. I have it in manual mode, parked at level 3 right now to see what happens.
My question is about the suspension. Does it function when the car is off? As soon as I connected the jumper cables, are heard the purge valve on the pump release. With my front bags leaking, I'm hoping the car isn't trying to level itself while parked. I have it in manual mode, parked at level 3 right now to see what happens.
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The car will try to level itself after it's turned off, but it doesn't keep doing it, so it wouldn't drain the battery on its own (although what happens if there's a leak in the air suspension and it can't keep it level is a question I don't know the answer to). But most likely you just need a new battery, they go bad all of a sudden, I just had to replace one in my truck that seemed to be working perfectly the day before.
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BTW you can push the up and down levelling arrows at the same time for cca 6 seconds. The LCM module switches off. No power drain , no levelling at all. Important: jumping the car form foreign battery and similar actions can kill the level control module (LCM module). So do the LCM into "service mode" prior to batt change and tyre change.
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So I placed the car in "jack mode", and 2 days later, she's dead again. I found a sticker on the side of the battery, saying "Delivered Aug 2012". I guess it's time to cough up another $200.
Now I just have to pull my radio, because the card with my radio code is nowhere to be found.
Now I just have to pull my radio, because the card with my radio code is nowhere to be found.
Last edited by MrKid; 11-07-2015 at 07:28 AM.
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it only hits 14 volts after being jumped from stone dead. I drove around after jumping it, and the car restarted twice fine. The volt meter was back down to just over 12 volts after 5 miles of driving. This tells me the connections are good, and the alternator is good.
The only other problem could be a parasitic drain. I can't find anything running, and with the age of the battery, I should replace it anyway before winter.
The only other problem could be a parasitic drain. I can't find anything running, and with the age of the battery, I should replace it anyway before winter.
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I have an '01 Allroad 2.7T. I drove the car about a week and a half ago, and had no problems with starting. I had the car parked on a hill (passenger side was higher) since then. I went to start it two nights ago, and it was completely dead. No lights, clicking, even the alarm lights on the doors weren't blinking. I was able to jump it , and the volt gauge jumped over 14 volts. I let it idle for a while, then ran for gas. The car started fine at the station. By the time I got home, the volts were just over 12.
My question is about the suspension. Does it function when the car is off? As soon as I connected the jumper cables, are heard the purge valve on the pump release. With my front bags leaking, I'm hoping the car isn't trying to level itself while parked. I have it in manual mode, parked at level 3 right now to see what happens.
My question is about the suspension. Does it function when the car is off? As soon as I connected the jumper cables, are heard the purge valve on the pump release. With my front bags leaking, I'm hoping the car isn't trying to level itself while parked. I have it in manual mode, parked at level 3 right now to see what happens.
A new battery is always good. Just make sure there is no aparasite leakage in the system...
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it only hits 14 volts after being jumped from stone dead. I drove around after jumping it, and the car restarted twice fine. The volt meter was back down to just over 12 volts after 5 miles of driving. This tells me the connections are good, and the alternator is good.
The only other problem could be a parasitic drain. I can't find anything running, and with the age of the battery, I should replace it anyway before winter.
The only other problem could be a parasitic drain. I can't find anything running, and with the age of the battery, I should replace it anyway before winter.
If your voltage falling to 12 V after 5 miles it meaning that your alternator was heated and doesn't work properly. Potential root cause could be damage of contact rotor rings. Connection between ring and wire was loose after heating (like trembling).
It is heavy issue. Light issue - brushes on the alternator.
Need to take diagnostic tools (VAG-COM or anything else) and check value of voltage during heating - not necessary to drive, to monitor engine temperature, RPM and voltage.
From my experience with jumps of voltage:
- alternator "Valeo" is prone to rotor failure;
- alternator "Bosch" is prone to brushes unit failure;
- fault of glow plugs relay on a TDI.
Some time need to be check "negative" wire connection to the engine, but once we found overload by the air compressor (it was damaged).
If you want to check battery condition, you must remove it and full fill up during 10 hours. After that, keep battery half or one hours without filling and check voltage. If voltage will be less then 11-11.5 V, you can utilize it. If voltage 12.5-13 V - everything clear and battery still alive.
Radio code you can find in your service book. You can request code by VIN from your nearest Audi's dealer. You can remove your radio and read code from back side.
Have a nice inspection!
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If the charging system voltage dropped to 12 V while driving, the problem is in the alternator (Brushes - charging regulator - (2002 and above) ECU.
I'm not sure that MrKid meant to this
I'm not sure that MrKid meant to this
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Changing the battery seems to have done the trick. The volt meter stays at or just below 14 volts, regardless of outside temp, current load, and length of time the car has been sitting. The cables are really good shape, possible new.
Not sure why the gauge was dropping to 12 volts with the old battery. Possible the alternator was giving up, do to the battery not charging properly.
Not sure why the gauge was dropping to 12 volts with the old battery. Possible the alternator was giving up, do to the battery not charging properly.