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Old 12-03-2008, 08:42 PM   #1
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Default turbo oil return lines leaking...

Changed the oil.
Than I see small oil leaks at both turbocharger oil return lines at upper section of oil pan?!

So I am reading the Bentley manual but can't find specs for that...?
Is there a seal b/n the line and the oil pan? Can I replace it?

Or just just tighten it up a bit and see if it still leaks out?!

anyone dealt with that before?

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mine do it but the amount is so miniscule that I haven't cared to address it.
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Default yeah not a big leak but still...

I think there is an o-ring ...but not much space around. it looks like a hex key bolt ..
maybe I'll just clean it up and see how dirty it gets in a week

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Old 12-04-2008, 07:29 AM   #4
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Default If you can easily hit that hex bolt, shucks, I'd just tighten it up a......

carefully calibrated "smidge". I wouldn't tighten it to the german "Gutentight" spec, but personally, if I saw that type of leak, I wouldn't be able to just try to see if I couldn't tighten it at least to spec (again, a carefully hand-calibrated ~25 ft lbs or so).
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tnx trango I will give it a try
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:54 PM   #6
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Default Yep... I've dealt with this...

I am the original owner, and initially noticed the leak at around 15k miles... It was only a drop here and there, never enough to add oil between changes.

It took approximately 7+ trips to the dealer and a letter to the dealership's CEO to get this resolved.

During the initial visits they tried tightening the hex bolt, they also tried replacing the seals several times. First with one type, then with a "newer style" seal. Leak remained.

Once the dealership's CEO got involved and engaged the necessary resources, they found the leak was was caused by a manufacturing/machining defect of the upper oil pan (where the return line enters the upper oil pan.

It's been at well over a year since the upper oil pain was replaced, and I have yet to see a drop of oil again.

Hopefully it's as simple as tightening the bolt or replacing a seal. If not, I am sure the upper oil pan is probably big bucks, not to mention the labor involved.

Hope you under (extended)warranty.

Good luck! Keep us posted.

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Default well that doesn't sound good

no warranty here

I am winging it so far...

will try tightening it and I will deal with it when it leaks enough to be a problem

I hope the syntec 0W30 I put in doesn't make it leak more... just switched to synt. oil @ 66,000mls
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:32 AM   #8
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Default I am not sure how much truth there is with about...

I've heard that (synthetic causing leaks) alot over the years, but have never personally had any problems running Mobil 1 in any of my vehicles cars (both German and Japanese)... I am sure there are those who have though, but not sure if their leaks are direct attributed to simply using synthetic oil.

As for the turbo return line, I do not know for sure, but suspect it is an o-ring. I wonder if you can use a gasket type material in addition to the o-ring (if there is one), or possibly use one of those "form-a-gasket" type products between the retention plate and upper oil pan.

There is not much room in there. If I recall correctly it was the sway bar that was in the way. You might need to drop it to do anything.

And then again, if the leak is so slight you can always let it be... I decided to pursure it because the car was brand new and under warranty. I did not feel a $50K car should have any leaks.

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Old 12-07-2008, 09:36 AM   #9
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Default Re: turbo oil return lines leaking...

I recently had a similar leak on my 2004 2.7T (26k miles). Took it to the dealer and they replaced the O-ring. One week later it dripped again. (oil never hit the ground, small leak)

I recently moved and took it to another dealer. They thought it was the O-ring again and replaced it. However, before returning the car they decided to let it idle for a little while to double check. Guess what, it leaked again. They decided to replace the oil return line. I had them recheck it 3 weeks later and the leak has not come back.

I think it is worth the try to replace the return line before starting on the upper oil pan...

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Just got this great PM from a fellow audi addict:

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"I'm not sure if there is a write up for the turbo oil return seals. I got mine on line from autohausaz. There are two steel hoses that go into the oil pan coming from the turboes. Mine were visibly leaking at the oil pan. At first I thought it was the oil pan's gasket which would've been a lot more work.
Anyway these seals are fairly easy to replace.
I put the car in level 4(jack mode) and put two jack stands under the recommended spots (just in case).
First I drained the oil.(By the way I suggest doing this job the next time you have to change the oil).
I loosened the end links that connect to the front sway bar and removed two brackets that hold it toward the middle of the car. Most people remove the sway bar altogether, I only swung it away(hence loosening the end links instead of removing them). That gives you enough clearance to remove the one little bolt for each oil return line. It could be a 8mm or smaller, I don't remember.
After that you have to pry out the return line. I remember it required a bit force and 'technique'. The oil line goes into the oil pan about one inch. Take your time.
The seals are about half way to the ends. You'll see them. Mine were flat(they are suppose to be round). Cut them or pull them off however you think safely without damaging the oil lines.
To install the new ones use some oil or grease and carefully slide them on.
Put everything back together and replace/change the oil.
If you think of a way to remove 2-3 quarts of oil from the pan without emptying the whole thing, there is that option too...
One more thing: if you decide to lift the car make sure you tighten the sway bar while the car is weighted(on ramps or wheels, not lift or jacks).
Let me know if you have any more questions.
I hope this helps"

It helps a ton indoor...thanks for taking the time!
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Had the same leak on my 2004 with 55K. Dealer replaced o'ring, no help. Than they replaced the line. A year later, the same leak. My warranty end up paying for a new upper oil pan. It was leaking between the metal ring where the line goes in and the aluminum oil pan. Factory defect as we speak. Anyway, the sub frame has to be dropped and we found a leaky motor mount which they also covered. An alignment was needed too. No more leaks after that. Good luck.
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Well I did this over one year ago and the leak stopped. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...

I think it would be worth doing it yourself even if it might not stop the leak. That way you know it's not the seals.

After that, if the leak continues, I would replace the oil lines altogether(with new seals on both ends: turbo side and oil pan).

And if all these don't work and you still have the leak, than the last option would be replacing the oil pan...
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Just got this great PM from a fellow audi addict:

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"I'm not sure if there is a write up for the turbo oil return seals. I got mine on line from autohausaz. There are two steel hoses that go into the oil pan coming from the turboes. Mine were visibly leaking at the oil pan. At first I thought it was the oil pan's gasket which would've been a lot more work.
Anyway these seals are fairly easy to replace.
I put the car in level 4(jack mode) and put two jack stands under the recommended spots (just in case).
First I drained the oil.(By the way I suggest doing this job the next time you have to change the oil).
I loosened the end links that connect to the front sway bar and removed two brackets that hold it toward the middle of the car. Most people remove the sway bar altogether, I only swung it away(hence loosening the end links instead of removing them). That gives you enough clearance to remove the one little bolt for each oil return line. It could be a 8mm or smaller, I don't remember.
After that you have to pry out the return line. I remember it required a bit force and 'technique'. The oil line goes into the oil pan about one inch. Take your time.
The seals are about half way to the ends. You'll see them. Mine were flat(they are suppose to be round). Cut them or pull them off however you think safely without damaging the oil lines.
To install the new ones use some oil or grease and carefully slide them on.
Put everything back together and replace/change the oil.
If you think of a way to remove 2-3 quarts of oil from the pan without emptying the whole thing, there is that option too...
One more thing: if you decide to lift the car make sure you tighten the sway bar while the car is weighted(on ramps or wheels, not lift or jacks).
Let me know if you have any more questions.
I hope this helps"

It helps a ton indoor...thanks for taking the time!



Rather use oil or grease to install the hose, I was thinking of using some gasket sealant. The kind one would use for a valve cover job. While it's still wet, it should slide just as well, tighten it down and let it dry for a few hours before putting the oil back in.
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The o-rings on the oil return lines are a pretty common leak. The o-rings cost <$0.50 each.
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Has anyone tried a thicker o ring.. Also DID anyone try the Form-A-Gasket??

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