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Old 04-24-2014, 07:20 PM   #1
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Default Just Started at the ED process for my 2015 S5

I officially placed my order last Saturday. From my dealers notes it looks like the ordering guide came in around 4/17. I will try to keep a running log about how things are proceeding and the timing, but so far the word from the factory is that my dates are fine.

Order Date: 4/19
Audi Packet Arrival:
Order Delivery Confirmation Date:
Desired Delivery Date: 8/12
Actual Delivery Date:
Drop Off Location: (tbd in Germany)
Drop off Date: 8/19 or 8/20
Ship to: California, Bay Area
Container Ship Start Date:
Container Ship Port of Entry:
Additional Transports:

Are there any other dates I should track for people? Also anyone know of a great garage in the Marais neighborhood in Paris. I don't really want to park my new toy on the street if I don't have to.

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We drove a rental into Paris about 10 yrs ago - Paris traffic is brutal. I'd take a train, you don't need a car in Paris. Good Luck!
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Congratulation!
What countries you plan to visit?
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We drove a rental into Paris about 10 yrs ago - Paris traffic is brutal. I'd take a train, you don't need a car in Paris. Good Luck!
I agree 1000%. Driving through the streets of Paris with a rental car was the scariest experience ever. Especially around the Arc de Triomphe. And judging by the graffiti everywhere I wouldn't feel safe parking my bright new shiny GERMAN car anywhere downtown.
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I agree 1000%. Driving through the streets of Paris with a rental car was the scariest experience ever. Especially around the Arc de Triomphe. And judging by the graffiti everywhere I wouldn't feel safe parking my bright new shiny GERMAN car anywhere downtown.
LOL, yeah driving through the Arc de Triomphe circle was the scariest part for my wife. It's like 7 rows wide with no demarcations, and intersections from every direction. Cars flow in and out of the circle like it was nothing. We were all screaming as we were going through it!!!

I would find a hotel with a private parking garage, then take the Metro for exploring the city. We stayed at "Adagio Paris Tour Eiffel" last year. It was nothing to rave about, but it was clean with a pretty convenient location. It was about a 5-10 minute walk to the Eiffel Tower and the nearest Metro station. It was a little over $200 per night for a 1-bed studio. I believe parking was around $20 per night. Good luck.
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Just Germany and France. I have about 10 days total.
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We stayed at the Marriott on the Champs Elysees last summer and parked our new A6 in their garage. Was very safe. The drive from Versailles back to the city was white knuckled as the motorcycles were passing between cars at speed. Had to turn in mirrors so they would not get clipped. On drive from Munich to Paris, stayed one night in Strasbourg. Cour du Corbeau hotel is incredible. Wish we had stayed for 2 nights. Highly recommend it.
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Thanks for the garage info. That's pretty close to where we are staying. I will check out the other hotel.
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I officially placed my order last Saturday. From my dealers notes it looks like the ordering guide came in around 4/17. I will try to keep a running log about how things are proceeding and the timing, but so far the word from the factory is that my dates are fine.

Order Date: 4/19
Audi Packet Arrival: 5/13 - Update
Order Delivery Confirmation Date:
Desired Delivery Date: 8/12
Actual Delivery Date:
Drop Off Location: (tbd in Germany)
Drop off Date: 8/19 or 8/20
Ship to: California, Bay Area
Container Ship Start Date:
Container Ship Port of Entry:
Additional Transports:

Are there any other dates I should track for people? Also anyone know of a great garage in the Marais neighborhood in Paris. I don't really want to park my new toy on the street if I don't have to.

Thanks.
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I'll be in Ingolstadt at the same time. Taking delivery of an A7 on 8/11 (requested) and then will travel through Austria for the week.

Did the welcome package arrive via UPS? Received a UPS sticker on the door today and was wondering it was.
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Yes, UPS next day air. Congrats on the A7.
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Can you give us any negotiation details? Did you start with the invoice price less 5% for European Delivery and work from there? With my BMW I took the ED invoice price and added $750 to get my deal. Was wondering if Audi works that way too.
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Can you give us any negotiation details? Did you start with the invoice price less 5% for European Delivery and work from there? With my BMW I took the ED invoice price and added $750 to get my deal. Was wondering if Audi works that way too.
NO, Audi do not work the way BMW work with ED invoice +$XXX
5% out MSRP price.
But some user reported that they get more than 5% - it's all depend on your negotiation skills.
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But some user reported that they get more than 5% - it's all depend on your negotiation skills.
...and the vehicle! I don't claim to be a particularly good negotiator but on an "S" car, my salesguy said that as a good long-term customer they would be willing to take MSRP on a non-ED car. A walk-in would pay a premium over MSRP. For an "RS" it would be worse yet.

Point only being that the scarcity of the car absolutely does factor into what you will likely be able to negotiate.
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...and the vehicle! I don't claim to be a particularly good negotiator but on an "S" car, my salesguy said that as a good long-term customer they would be willing to take MSRP on a non-ED car. A walk-in would pay a premium over MSRP. For an "RS" it would be worse yet.

Point only being that the scarcity of the car absolutely does factor into what you will likely be able to negotiate.
You mean "Invoice" and not "MSRP", right? I'm pretty sure the dealerships wouldn't be able to get away with charging more than the Audi MSRP sticker price. Hahah.
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You mean "Invoice" and not "MSRP", right? I'm pretty sure the dealerships wouldn't be able to get away with charging more than the Audi MSRP sticker price. Hahah.
You almost scared me away from even looking at Audi. If the starting point is MSRP and you work up from there.....Fuggitaboutit.
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...and the vehicle! I don't claim to be a particularly good negotiator but on an "S" car, my salesguy said that as a good long-term customer they would be willing to take MSRP on a non-ED car. A walk-in would pay a premium over MSRP. For an "RS" it would be worse yet.

Point only being that the scarcity of the car absolutely does factor into what you will likely be able to negotiate.
They treat RS models as BMW treat M - no ED discount.
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You mean "Invoice" and not "MSRP", right? I'm pretty sure the dealerships wouldn't be able to get away with charging more than the Audi MSRP sticker price. Hahah.
No, I mean MSRP

This is from AUDI ED Web site:

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The following models are available through the European Delivery Program and qualify for the recommended MSRP* discount, with exception of the R8 and all RS models. The final price is determined by the dealer.

A3 Sedan --> up to 5% off of MSRP
A4 Sedan/allroad --> up to 5% off of MSRP
S4 Sedan --> up to 5% off of MSRP
A5 Coupe/Cabriolet --> up to 5% off of MSRP
S5 Coupe/Cabriolet --> up to 5% off of MSRP
A6/A6 TDI --> up to 5% off of MSRP
S6 Sedan --> up to 5% off of MSRP
A7/A7 TDI --> up to 5% off of MSRP
S7 Sportback --> up to 5% off of MSRP
A8/A8L/A8 TDI --> up to 5% off of MSRP
S8 Sedan --> up to 5% off of MSRP
Q5/Q5 Hybrid/Q5 TDI --> up to 5% off of MSRP
SQ5 --> up to 5% off of MSRP
Q7/Q7 TDI --> up to 5% off of MSRP
R8/R8 Spyder* --> Do not qualify for discount
All RS Models --> Do not qualify for discount

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*MSRP excludes taxes, title/documentary fees, registration, tags, Audi Dealer prep, labor and installation charges, insurance, optional equipment and accessories, certificate of compliance and non-compliance fees and finance charges.
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...and the vehicle! I don't claim to be a particularly good negotiator but on an "S" car, my salesguy said that as a good long-term customer they would be willing to take MSRP on a non-ED car. A walk-in would pay a premium over MSRP. For an "RS" it would be worse yet.

Point only being that the scarcity of the car absolutely does factor into what you will likely be able to negotiate.
Sorry for the confusion, my question was in response to this comment.
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You mean "Invoice" and not "MSRP", right? I'm pretty sure the dealerships wouldn't be able to get away with charging more than the Audi MSRP sticker price. Hahah.
No, I mean MSRP.

Look around when any new S car comes out - there absolutely is a "market price adjustment" or whatever the dealer wants to call it. I think my dealer gets 3? allocations a year for the S6. Heck, look at any rare car and you'll find the same - new Corvette ZR1, Z06 when they were first out.

As TIME89 points out, Audi's Invoice vs MSRP is more "real" than many makes, so 5% off MSRP is often "better" than "invoice" pricing - and for a "common" car you may well be able to negotiate beyond that.

Now as we head into the 3rd year of the C7 S6, it certainly may be that prices come down. My dealer said most of his S6 sales were for 2012 cars as people had been waiting for a new S6 for quite some time. Nonetheless he's apparently still able to get a premium for the S6 and S7.
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