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Old 05-30-2008, 09:24 AM
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I see that Europe is really starting to get frustrated with the high fuel prices.

At what point will Canadians take some action?

We belly ache but really do nothing. We are set to elect the Liberal Party which is all set to increase the cost of carbon based fuels to the benefit of the Government and all Canadians.

Who here actually think if you increase the cost of carbon fuels that your food, clothing, all transportation and services will not increase in price?<ul><li><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7426971.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7426971.stm</a</li></ul>
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Default i don't really think they should do anything

i mean -- do you want them to start controlling how things are priced?

maybe they should control starbucks prices too?
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Protests do nothing. Instead, significantly jack up the price on goods that OPEC members import.
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Default I'm not really bothered at this point to be honest.

Couple of quick changes to my lifestyle - changing up my work schedule and avoiding rush hour - have nullified the impact of increased gas prices.

If it takes other people off the road and clears the way for me to drive faster, I'm all for expensive gas.

Obviously I'm a bit worried about lower income families struggling to cope with increased cost of living - just playing devil's advocate here.
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Default my 2cents: I don't think the goverment should get involved any more than they are. At a certain

point people will make lifestyle changes that will make them more responsible as a consumer. Move closer to work, downsize the property.

For example do we really need the 2500 sq ft bungalow that we can only afford if we buy it 100km from work?

Then the rest of us will have less congested highways.

Accumulating stuff is fun but does it make for a better quality of life some people don't think so.
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Default Yeah, but if you're really trying to change consumer behaviour, then what's the problem

with raised prices in food, clothing, etc. also?

If people are just giving lip service to helping out the environment, then they'll bitch about higher gas prices. Not saying it's not going to hurt in the short term, but that's the only way we're going to get people to adjust their behaviour long term.

The reason everyone drives smaller and less gas guzzling cars in Europe has got a lot to do with that. High fuel prices, taxes on larger engine cars, and such have clearly impacted consumer behaviour there.
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All goods transported by ship or air will have significant cost increases with the higher fuel costs
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"taxes on larger engine cars" is the biggest moderator.
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Default My problem is the large windfall that

government benefits from with increased pricing. The tax is a % of the price of fuel so the higher it goes the more money they get to waste.

If Government was to set a fixed tax rate instead of a % then they would be all over this fighting for the consumer.

As for the environment do you honestly believe that what comes out of the tailpipe of any vehicle manufactured after 2000 is any more toxic than a few wars that are currently taking place or the odd volcanic eruption.

When China is bringing a coal fired power plant online at the rate of 1 every week to 10 days is my decreased use of fuel going to save the Polar Bear?<ul><li><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/business/worldbusiness/11chinacoal.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/11/business/worldbusiness/11chinacoal.html</a</li></ul>
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I wonder if that will bring some manufactoring jobs back...It would be nice...


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