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Old 08-02-2011, 08:24 AM   #1
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Well just got my 5k oil change done yesterday, wasn't aware until the advisor told me the next oil change is at 15k. Didn't pay much attention until I realized that's a 10k interval between change.

Maybe I'm not used to such a fancy car but, isn't 10k miles between oil change is a bit, long over due? Given that I will drove 10k before 365 days but, I'm still not used to have my car's oil changed every 10k miles.

Should I still ask them to change it every 5k or just, go with the flow till it hits the magical 10k interval but add 10-30 full syn. oil when it needs a top-off?

It's kind of bothering me now to be honest, like I said I still wrap my head around having my car's oil changed every 10k miles interval.

Also which full syn. oil do you suggest for top offs? Thanks ppl!
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Well just got my 5k oil change done yesterday, wasn't aware until the advisor told me the next oil change is at 15k. Didn't pay much attention until I realized that's a 10k interval between change.

Maybe I'm not used to such a fancy car but, isn't 10k miles between oil change is a bit, long over due? Given that I will drove 10k before 365 days but, I'm still not used to have my car's oil changed every 10k miles.

Should I still ask them to change it every 5k or just, go with the flow till it hits the magical 10k interval but add 10-30 full syn. oil when it needs a top-off?

It's kind of bothering me now to be honest, like I said I still wrap my head around having my car's oil changed every 10k miles interval.

Also which full syn. oil do you suggest for top offs? Thanks ppl!
Yeah, the 10k interval in the turbo 4 cyl engine makes me a bit nervous too given its history.

I'm due for my 5k service this week. My next change is going to be in 6500 miles at which time I'll do a UOA to see how things look.

The dealer is probably using Castrol 5W40 (502.00) or M1 0W40 (502.00). You could always ask them what they are using...sometimes they know.

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Old 08-02-2011, 12:38 PM   #3
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I did go 10k miles between oil changes - the 15k was a couple months ago. But to be sure going forward, I got the test kit from Blackstone Labs (www.blackstone-labs.com) and will send them the oil for analysis once I hit the 7500 mark. If that looks good, I will indeed wait for the 10k and probably send a sample of that as well. This way you know how the oil is doing based on your driving.
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There are COUNTLESS threads on this for the 2.0T.
Personally I dont agree with the 10k and DIY every 4-5k on both our 2.0T's.
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stevedusa, I am sure the dealer will be happy to change your every 5000 miles You sound like you are really bother by this extended oil change interval, this must be your first car that recommands a 10K mile oil change. Many luxury cars are doing it now, BMW, MB, and even Lexus just change to 10K miles change interval. If it bothers you that much, meet the factory recommandation in the middle and change the oil every 7500 miles. I change my oil every 8000 miles because I only do 8000 miles a year.
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Thanks guys for all the information. Yes indeed this is my FIRST luxury vehicle and I'm just so used to have them oil changed at 3k.

I think I will do a 5k change, just to be safe. I don't want to take too much chances, even though the manufacturer said I don't need to.
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If your car starts consuming oil, as many 2.0T's do, you may only need to add oil once in a while.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:56 PM   #8
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But don't use a 10W-30 to top up with. Look for Castrol Syntec 5W-40, Syntec 0W-30, or any oil that meets the VW 502.00 spec. IIRC, there aren't any 10W-30's that meet this spec.

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Got a follow up phone call from Audi today, asking how is the car doing.

I asked the service adviser and he said honestly he'd suggest a in-the-middle change (at 5k interval) and use good oil (full syn.).

Guess that's what I'll be doing.
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Thanks guys for all the information. Yes indeed this is my FIRST luxury vehicle and I'm just so used to have them oil changed at 3k.

I think I will do a 5k change, just to be safe. I don't want to take too much chances, even though the manufacturer said I don't need to.
That's why I think sending an oil sample to the lab is the way to go. We're used to more frequent intervals, but the oil analysis will tell you with hard data how your oil is doing. My 04 Acura recommended 10k intervals as well. As someone mentioned, what I did was do 7.5k. Never had the oil analyzed, but will do so for the Q5.
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without sounding silly tho' poking at the bees nest here ...

WHY would the Q's maintenance be scheduled for a 10K oil change IF not for then that is what is simply needed?
Changing oil every 4-5K was based on different 'quality' engines and non-synthetic oils.
If you followed the maintenance plan then have issues down the line wouldn't that fall back onto the manuf/dealership? (I know, I know, Prove it right??)

My husband and I have ALWAYS been under the thought that an oil change is 'cheap insurance' for maintaining a vehicle for a long life BUT we are under the AudiCare plan and have been following it of every 10K.

Do folks also follow that oil change intervals are also still in accordance with your driving of the Q (or any vehicle) i.e. sooner in heavy stop & go traffic vs. leisurely 'Sunday' drives?
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Got a follow up phone call from Audi today, asking how is the car doing.

I asked the service adviser and he said honestly he'd suggest a in-the-middle change (at 5k interval) and use good oil (full syn.).

Guess that's what I'll be doing.
Now there is a big surprise , thats like asking a BMW salesman if you should buy a BMW instead of a Audi. Unless you drive in servere conditions, there is no need to change your oil every 5000 miles. Of course old habits are hard to break, people in Europe have been doing 10000+ miles oil change interval for years. Many BMW owners have tested their oil at or near 10000 miles with good results.

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Now there is a big surprise , thats like asking a BMW salesman if you should buy a BMW instead of a Audi. Unless you drive in servere conditions, there is no need to change your oil every 5000 miles.

Not true. I've seen many tests to prove it. Not to mention the 1/2 qrt loss every 5k miles that is called "normal" by every service manger and service tech I've spoke to. That means your 2.0T will be down AT LEAST 1 qrt every 10k miles.
If you're ok with that than more power to you.

I agree with Loscoz... Cheap insurance.
I have always maintained my own car and believe a $35 Fully Synthetic oil change/filter every 5k is worth it.
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Not true. I've seen many tests to prove it. Not to mention the 1/2 qrt loss every 5k miles that is called "normal" by every service manger and service tech I've spoke to. That means your 2.0T will be down AT LEAST 1 qrt every 10k miles.
If you're ok with that than more power to you.

I agree with Loscoz... Cheap insurance.
I have always maintained my own car and believe a $35 Fully Synthetic oil change/filter every 5k is worth it.
Can you show me one test that shows European spec synthetic oil that have fail before 10000 miles under normal driving condition, not severe? I believe the Audi manual describe what is consider severe condition. If you can post that test, then Audi have a law suit on their hands.
If you are losing 1/2 quart of oil, you should probably top it off.
Its $35 if you DIY, but $100 at the dealership.
I am all for cheap insurance, but unnecessary maintenance is such a waste.

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Can you show me one test that shows European spec synthetic oil that have fail before 10000 miles under normal driving condition, not severe? I believe the Audi manual describe what is consider severe condition. If you can post that test, then Audi have a law suit on their hands.
If you are losing 1/2 quart of oil, you should probably top it off.
Its $35 if you DIY, but $100 at the dealership.
I am all for cheap insurance, but unnecessary maintenance is such a waste.

Can you show me a test that states the vehicle was driven "severe" or moderate? Try to tell Audi that you drive your car like an 80 yr old grandmother and your car still burns oil. Prove it.

So you're telling us that if we can prove that our Audi's burn 1/2 quart oil for every 5k driven under moderate driving conditions then we could win a lawsuit against Audi? Wow, where did you pass the bar?

Read here.
http://tinyurl.com/3hg9y52

Common issue huh? Audi says it's normal. Good luck to anyone willing to fight them on it.

Cheap insurance is planning ahead and making sure oil isn't an issue.
I call a few quarts of oil cheaper than turbo or engines problems down the road.
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Can you show me a test that states the vehicle was driven "severe" or moderate? Try to tell Audi that you drive your car like an 80 yr old grandmother and your car still burns oil. Prove it.

So you're telling us that if we can prove that our Audi's burn 1/2 quart oil for every 5k driven under moderate driving conditions then we could win a lawsuit against Audi? Wow, where did you pass the bar?

Common issue huh? Audi says it's normal. Good luck to anyone willing to fight them on it.

Cheap insurance is planning ahead and making sure oil isn't an issue.
I call a few quarts of oil cheaper than turbo or engines problems down the road.
10000 miles oil change interval have nothing to do with burning oil, I was simply stating that the oil is still good at 10000 miles under normal driving condition.
Most new engines burns oil because the piston ring is not seated right, the cylinder wall can also cause oil consumption. Sometimes when you drive your car like a grandma, it actually cause the piston rings to not seat properly. A little bit of oil consumption is normal for some turbocharged or supercharged engine and the Audi 2.0T have always had a problem with oil consumption.
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Sometimes when you drive your car like a grandma, it actually cause the piston rings to not seat properly.
+1....and leads to issues down the road including high oil consumption.
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10000 miles oil change interval have nothing to do with burning oil, I was simply stating that the oil is still good at 10000 miles under normal driving condition.
Yes, especially with full synth as recommended by Audi. And with the Q5, under normal driving conditions, being at relatively low revs (e.g,. under 5K rpm), it should not be an issue.

The oil manufacturers and service dept's have you all worried!

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Audi 2.0T have always had a problem with oil consumption.
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+1....and leads to issues down the road including high oil consumption.
I've seen all sorts of contradicting break-in period advice. I'm currently at 600 miles now - can someone please link to a valid and good break-in guide for the 2.0T engine to avoid the above mentioned problems?
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