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Old 08-05-2014, 09:37 PM   #1
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Default 2015 SQ5 vs 2016 SQ5 (worth the wait?)

Going to purchase a 2015 SQ5 soon and was wondering if it might be worth putting off until the 2016 models which are supposed to the new makeover.

I heard the 2016 Model will have a lightweight MLB-evo platform, which Audi says will improve fuel efficiency and handling, as well as many other changes including engine and headlight changes.

My buddy who is a car enthusiast told me its better I just go ahead and get this years model for 3 reasons:

1) New models usually but not always have teething problems which might affect the first batch (which I would definitely purchase from cause I don't have the patience to wait for the 2017 models)

2) The batches of cars coming out of the new factory in Mexico are untested by the masses, not as though an average joe like me would be able to tell any differences in build quality, but it would still bother me if the 2015 line was superior in anyway and I waited for nothing.

3) The 2015 batch is the last release of the old model, but its the most tested and refined version that should have the least issues because of the number of years in production.

Anyways, what do you guys think.

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For me, these 3 reasons were too much to overcome and thus pulled the trigger on a Q5 now.
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seriously?
Seriously, the new Q5 comes out in mid-2016 ( from factories in Mexico) , it will be MY2017 and a year after that comes SQ
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Seriously, the new Q5 comes out in mid-2016 ( from factories in Mexico) , it will be MY2017 and a year after that comes SQ
I guess that settles it then, Thanks for your time Spijun.
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Default Confirming, this sounds right on the U.S. side too

Like other companies, Audi generally lags the intro of its high performance models after a major body change by at least a year. It also gives the marketing promo types a second shot at stimulating more buying interest, including the occasional trade up even by buyers just a year or two earlier with lots of $ on their hands.

They may intro the new model (like the next gen Q5) earlier than the typical early fall change over, but then not get the S type version out until the next model year. That makes the effective delay to get to the next gen S model 15-18 months. That's what happened on the A8 vs S8 for example on its most recent change, and it was almost three years on the generation before that. The S6's have also lagged compared to A6 counterparts; don't recall offhand on the A4/S4.
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1) New models usually but not always have teething problems which might affect the first batch (which I would definitely purchase from cause I don't have the patience to wait for the 2017 models)
this is the reason why i typically dont buy the 1st model year. i have only done this one time, and i got mildly burnt on it. it was the 1st model year for the STi hatch in the States. some had engine issues, which i luckily didnt experience. but they all had paint issues where the front tires would kick stones back onto the rear wheelwells and chip the paint. the next model year had 3M-type material on the rear kick panel and up onto the wheelwells.
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2) The batches of cars coming out of the new factory in Mexico are untested by the masses, not as though an average joe like me would be able to tell any differences in build quality, but it would still bother me if the 2015 line was superior in anyway and I waited for nothing.
The VW plant in Puebla's previously made cars that even the masses would notice falling apart. Hopefully the VW plant's better these days (I haven't kept up since the Mk5 gen came out), and it sounds like Audi's got an eye toward QC on their factory with requiring suppliers recertify for the Audi factory (just being a VW supplier doesn't get them in) so hopefully it won't be a major difference if any, but certainly the Golf/Jetta/NBs that were being made in the sister factory a while back were pretty terrible by all accounts (my wife's Golf is Brazilian, so it's only "meh" on quality).

I'd be especially wary of the combination of new generation and new factory, as each can contribute to the potential issues of temporarily-poorer quality. Usually best to give it a couple of years for any issues to come to light and hopefully be addressed. Which would seem to imply either buy now (strong platform and well-known factory) or wait until MY2020+ and hope that everything's turned out well.
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1) New models usually but not always have teething problems which might affect the first batch (which I would definitely purchase from cause I don't have the patience to wait for the 2017 models)

2) The batches of cars coming out of the new factory in Mexico are untested by the masses, not as though an average joe like me would be able to tell any differences in build quality, but it would still bother me if the 2015 line was superior in anyway and I waited for nothing.

3) The 2015 batch is the last release of the old model, but its the most tested and refined version that should have the least issues because of the number of years in production.
Not SQ5 specific, but the above are actually some of the reasons why we are buying the current Q5 rather than waiting for 2016/2017 or rather than buying the new Porsche Macan right now. Seems like the Macan has plenty of quality issues - typical on a first model year, but even more so on a high end vehicle packed with a ton of electronic gizmos. The first customers are the guinea pigs. Eventually all the issues should get sorted out. It's just a question of how many service visits it'll take.

We currently have a 2008 C300, which was a first model year as well, and it certainly had its fair share of problems, big and small. Certainly glad we had an extended warranty on it - it has paid for itself 10x over. And now that the extended warranty is about to run out, it's time to dump it.

By the way, the new 2015 C-Class will now be made in the US, too, so that should probably also be avoided the first year or two. I remember when MB first started making the M SUV in the States, the quality/reliability took a major downturn. I think by now they've figured it out.
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We opted for the 2015 SQ5 knowing the new body's won't be released for a minimum of 2-3 years. Get it and enjoy it!
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I work with production and large manufacturing facilities in Mexico all of the time. There are huge complexities as is with "new" factories; but the biggest is cultural/sociological. I think it will be very very difficult for the Germans to go to Mexico and establish the precision culture right away. In years of trying, it has always taken our electronics manufacturing years for them to get it partially right. Auto manufacturing turns up the complexity significantly. Just making demands to do it a certain way does not work. I think that is why you saw such poor quality with VWs, and Fords made in Mexico. All which have had MAJOR issues and honestly continue to have problems to this day.
For me, the Audi cars can have its issues as is, no way do I want to add to that with the production in Mexico.
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1) New models usually but not always have teething problems which might affect the first batch (which I would definitely purchase from cause I don't have the patience to wait for the 2017 models)

2) The batches of cars coming out of the new factory in Mexico are untested by the masses, not as though an average joe like me would be able to tell any differences in build quality, but it would still bother me if the 2015 line was superior in anyway and I waited for nothing.

3) The 2015 batch is the last release of the old model, but its the most tested and refined version that should have the least issues because of the number of years in production.
Not an SQ5, but I just placed an order for a 2015 Q5, which I have been lusting after for some time. I considered waiting for the second gen coming in 2016, but when I realized that would be the first production model from Mexico, along with the other reasons your friend noted above, I pulled the trigger now on a 2015. I like knowing that my 2015 will be produced in Germany, and that I will have the last model year of the German-produced Q5's for the NA market.

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How long has the next gen Q7 been delayed? I'm not holding my breath waiting for the next gen Q5.
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All three of those are valid reasons...here's another.
My previous vehicle is a 2004 Toyota 4Runner. It's the fully loaded, V8, AWD, Limited Edition with the Lexus drivetrain. I was planning to get another one but I waited too long. The new ones are hideous and anemic. I kept the old one because I haven't had ANY trouble with it in 200K miles, but I would not consider buying the new one.
Oh yeah...I wanted a German automobile...not a Mexican ride.

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Hi all....I haven't been on here in a while but was glad to find this string.

Is there any update to the delivery date for the next gen Q5, or any change to the plan for it to be built in Mexico?

I need to decide what to do with my '13 3.0T that's coming up on 2 years old and 6,000 miles (seriously). Keep it 2-3 years longer to get past at least the first year build in Mexico? Sell/trade now while the value on mine is good to roll the equity into a new Q5 or find something else (I've had 3 BMW's). Might be fun to start looking around!

Thanks in advance for your input.
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Hi all....I haven't been on here in a while but was glad to find this string.

Is there any update to the delivery date for the next gen Q5, or any change to the plan for it to be built in Mexico?

I need to decide what to do with my '13 3.0T that's coming up on 2 years old and 6,000 miles (seriously). Keep it 2-3 years longer to get past at least the first year build in Mexico? Sell/trade now while the value on mine is good to roll the equity into a new Q5 or find something else (I've had 3 BMW's). Might be fun to start looking around!

Thanks in advance for your input.
Haven't seen any change, personally, so it's still looking like it's likely late 2016 as a MY2017. And they've been planning (and building) the Puebla facility for a while now, so it's 100% going to be built in Mexico. Curse the popularity over here.

As for what to do with yours, it all depends on you and what you're looking for. Seems like you don't drive it much and you've already got a facelift, so seems like it'd be worth holding onto unless you really wanted an S or TDI (something that wasn't available until 2014).
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I agree with @idale. Since it seems as if you don't drive much and your car is likely in great condition unless you moved into the sq5 or TDI (which I have) it might not be worth changing. Clearly a lot if fear on what happens when things move to the Mexico plant.

Personally, The TDI is amazing and was my go to choice after comparing the 2.0 and TDI. I never considerd the other models (hybrid, 3.0, sq5). Although the sq5 sounds amazing or the S package the TDI with premium plus and a few additional features easily met my needs.

The TDI miles especially in the highway us unreal. It is great around town as well but since the highway is up toward 38mpg it makes me forget how good 25mpg in town us etc....

Only fear with 2014 TDI is it is a first year in the Q5 bit seeks tested enough across other us audis and in Europe!

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Haven't seen any change, personally, so it's still looking like it's likely late 2016 as a MY2017. And they've been planning (and building) the Puebla facility for a while now, so it's 100% going to be built in Mexico. Curse the popularity over here.

As for what to do with yours, it all depends on you and what you're looking for. Seems like you don't drive it much and you've already got a facelift, so seems like it'd be worth holding onto unless you really wanted an S or TDI (something that wasn't available until 2014).
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Trade it in on a MY15 SQ5.
You won't be disappointed.
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Only fear with 2014 TDI is it is a first year in the Q5 bit seeks tested enough across other us audis and in Europe!
It's our first year with it, and I think this revision (engine code) is fairly recent, but the 3.0 TDI is available in most models overseas and has been available for I believe at least 5 years (and the TDI technology is well-proven). So no concerns at all.

Just wish we got the twin-turbo version that's available in the SQ5 over there (along with the A6), but then again that would've tempted me too much so maybe it's best we "only" have the single-turbo.
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