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Old 05-01-2014, 07:08 PM   #1
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We have a 2010 Q5, which I would like to replace later this year, or in the beginning of the 2015. We tried X3 - to stiff, seats not very comfortable; GLK 350 was a little to low and harder to get in-out, and my daughter complained that there was no legroom in rear; XC60 did not drive as well as Q5, and Evoque was not comfortable to drive at all (and very questionable reliability of LR and Volvo excluded those at this point).
We find the Q5 a little stiff riding, and after the winter potholes take a painful toll on our low backs.

Did any of you drive the Allroad? If yes, how did you find it?

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When I was looking to replace my past Q5, I looked at the Allroad. Nice car, but I was so used to the easy ingress/egress of the Q and the ride height. Dollar for dollar, the Q is a better value, and I think resale will be far better than an Allroad.

But don't listen to me, go sit in one and drive it if your dealer has one.
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Those are my experiences coming from a 2.0T. I think it would be a completely different car for you since you're not only going to a lower ride height, but you're also coming from a 3.2.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:36 AM   #4
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Well, it's going to be entirely up to you and your decision criteria.

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* The Allroad looks "cobbled up"
* The new Q5 rides a little better than your 2010
* The Q5 is a better value
* The 3.0T is a very nice drivetrain; not available in the Allroad
* The 2.0T will be every bit as good as your old 3.2; certainly torquier

Good luck on your decision.
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I was loaned a brand new 2014 All Road for 1 day when they were prepping my Q5 after delivery. I really didn't like it as much as I thought I would. I felt like it was much smaller and everything seemed crunch in up front on the dash compared to the Q5. It is more difficult to climb in and out of the Allroad just because it is so much lower to the ground, although because of this the Allroad has a much higher "fun factor" when driving, it is much more nimble and responsive especially if you are more on the aggressive side of driving. At the end of it, I prefer the Q still, easier to get in and out of as well as hauling stuff, The interior of the Q is better from a look and feel do it being better proportionate to the car, this is totally a personal decision as others will feel different about it. Really they are close to being the same car so the differences will be from a personal perspective and what the majority of driving you would be doing in it. The Q just has more room and is a little bigger, if you don't need the extra room the Allroad is definately a "fun" ride.
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I was looking at Consumer Reports 2014 auto issue and was surprised to see that the Predicted Reliability of the Allroad, based on their Owner Surveys, was "well above average" and for the Q5 2.0t "average", which is down from "above average" the previous year.

Last year in the U.S. Audi sold 5,386 Allroads compared to 40,365 Q5's so there is a smaller sampling of owners, but interesting info nonetheless.
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... It is more difficult to climb in and out of the Allroad just because it is so much lower to the ground, although because of this the Allroad has a much higher "fun factor" when driving, it is much more nimble and responsive especially if you are more on the aggressive side of driving. At the end of it, I prefer the Q still, easier to get in and out of as well as hauling stuff, ...
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Thanks a lot - easiness getting in-out takes over fun-to-drive factor at this point.
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The new Q5 rides a little better than your 2010....
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I was under impression the Q5's suspension was not changed since 2009 ...
Why does 2014 rides better then 2010?

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I was under impression the Q5's suspension was not changed since 2009 ...
Why does 2014 rides better then 2010?

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There were some tweaks to spring rates and shock absorbers the occurred with the minor update in 2013. We have a 2013 3.0T. I got a 2011 2.0T as a loaner during service. I wasn't thinking about it but, while driving the loaner, it came through to me that the ride was noticeably harsher.

You can probably find some information on it from 2013 road tests. Some of them mention it. I think I remember that spring rates were softened and shocks firmed up.
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Test drove the allroad last fall, very nice car but not sporty enough for my wife for daily driver and 2.0 not peppy enough. Mind you, she came from a Jeep SRT8 and we were looking to downsize some while retaining (hopefully) some good handling and decent power. Immediately after test driving the allroad, she took the SQ5 out and that was exactly what she was looking for. I can't vouch for the regular Q5 as we didn't test it, perhaps the allroad would have been the choice if there was no SQ5.
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acadianbob,

I was under impression the Q5's suspension was not changed since 2009 ...
Why does 2014 rides better then 2010?

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Maybe you should try a test Q5 with ADS (adaptive damping suspension). The difference is noticeable

I do not understand why on the U.S. market does not exist A6 allroad
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Maybe you should try a test Q5 with ADS (adaptive damping suspension). The difference is noticeable

I do not understand why on the U.S. market does not exist A6 allroad
Wagons do not sell very well in the U.S. It's a shame as they look good, handle like a car and are practical. Maybe wagon sales will improve here some day.
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We have a 2014 Q5 3.0 TFSI and a 2013 Allroad. The 2.0 TFSI engine of the allroad is great but it needs to be reved up to get any sporty, the 3 liter of the Q5, however, pushes from bottom like an electric engine. From a comfort point of view, our Q5 has ADS, and in comfort setting is more comfortable than the Allroad. I like the looks of the Allroad better, and no big difference in the interior. If there was a 3.0 Allroad or a S4 wagon, I'd probably have one of those instead of the Q5. I see the Allroad overpriced compared to the Q5, but you can probably get a great discount on the Allroad since lots seem to be packed with them, at least here in Colorado.
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Wagons do not sell very well in the U.S. It's a shame as they look good, handle like a car and are practical. Maybe wagon sales will improve here some day.
The Q5 is shorter, but the interior is taller and seating positions more upright (more ergonomically correct), so the rear seats protrude less into the cargo area, and the front seats less into the rear space. The result is a more spacious feeling car, with more comfortable seating, and with more cargo space than the limited length would suggest. The crossover is the American wagon.
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though you'll probably get used to it, the Q5 also has a steering wheel that's slightly offset to the right while the allroad's is perfectly centered. Bothered me for about 10k miles (coming from an '09 B8 a4) but now I never notice at all.
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Maybe you should try a test Q5 with ADS (adaptive damping suspension). The difference is noticeable

I do not understand why on the U.S. market does not exist A6 allroad
I don't think they sell Q5 w/ ADS in the US
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I don't think they sell Q5 w/ ADS in the US
I read the same thing somewhere. The Q5 & SQ5 do not have active damping suspension. Their ADS simply refers to Audi Drive Select, which modifies the throttle response, transmission shifts, and steering, but not actually the suspension. I can't remember where I read it. Maybe someone can confirm?
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I don't think they sell Q5 w/ ADS in the US
On the official website there is ADS

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I read the same thing somewhere. The Q5 & SQ5 do not have active damping suspension. Their ADS simply refers to Audi Drive Select, which modifies the throttle response, transmission shifts, and steering, but not actually the suspension. I can't remember where I read it. Maybe someone can confirm?
Not "active" , than "adaptive"
Can you give us the source of your information ?????

It is true that SQ5 has no adaptive damping suspension, but there is an option for the Q5 (3.0 TFSI and TDI ) according to website Audi of America

That means that Audi of America lying on its website

And in the catalog of spare parts exist shock absorbers for ADS which are much more expensive
http://www.jimellisaudiparts.com/pro...R0413029J.html

http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2577429/
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES459926/PriceAlert/

http://www.partsbase.org/audi/audi-q...ud-8r0413031bc

Price for standard:
http://www.original-genuine-spare-pa...stossdaemp.htm
Price for ADS:
http://www.original-genuine-spare-pa...stossdaemp.htm

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"Why does 2014 rides better then 2010?"
In four years it is possible for shock absorbers to be wearing out. Or tires to be changed, or replaced. Bear in mind that just a change from a "soft" tire to a "performance" tire can radically change the feel of a car's ride. A couple of PSI difference in the tire pressure will also change the ride. I've seen a 2 PSI change (on a 28 psi tire) make a radical difference in axle hop on another car.

But my Q5 swallows railway crossings and curbs, I can't see this ride being called "harsh" in any way. Even compared to a Hummer H3, which was a highly modified Chevy Colorado pickup truck, that can cross roadway speed bumps without any indication they exist.(G)
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