California bounces proposed 3.0 TDI fix...again
07-25-2016, 11:47 AM
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A note BTW on CARB (California Air Resources Board) for those not that familiar with emissions rules: There are two basic sets of rules, the federal baseline ones, and then California and any other states that elect to follow California rules. Back when emissions related laws and standards first came out, CA was allowed to set tougher rules because of the 60's observed heavy smog. In a federally authorized change some years ago now, other states were allowed to opt in to CA rules too. Simplified that now means California, the Pacific Northwest, and the Northeast. CARB is the de facto lead agency when you deal with the tighter CA rules. Audi certifies to all 50 states, instead of the old "CA car" for emissions purposes (usually meaning you couldn't get some motor version here) and then everywhere else. The NOx being spewed well above standards is also right at the heart of where the worst of the CA smog is health wise.
Thus CARB is basically relevant to all vehicles involved, since it is 50 state certification, and directly relevant to the other states following CA rules. You do get a somewhat more comprehensive emissions warranty if you are in a CA compliant state as well.
Thus CARB is basically relevant to all vehicles involved, since it is 50 state certification, and directly relevant to the other states following CA rules. You do get a somewhat more comprehensive emissions warranty if you are in a CA compliant state as well.
07-25-2016, 06:38 PM
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Thanks for this . . . I used to know more about all of this, but question: Could Audi ditch its 50 state certification and get certification just for the non-CA states? Might not work from a business standpoint, but I remember the old days where cars were sold "with California emissions" or without - and California would let you register a non CE car there after a few years (basically to prevent people from avoiding the option fee but to allow people to move to the state).
07-25-2016, 06:53 PM
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Thanks for this . . . I used to know more about all of this, but question: Could Audi ditch its 50 state certification and get certification just for the non-CA states? Might not work from a business standpoint, but I remember the old days where cars were sold "with California emissions" or without - and California would let you register a non CE car there after a few years (basically to prevent people from avoiding the option fee but to allow people to move to the state).
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Due to its preexisting standards and particularly severe motor vehicle air pollution problems in the Los Angeles metropolitan area, the U.S. state of California has special dispensation from the federal government to promulgate its own automobile emissions standards. Other states may choose to follow either the national standard or the stricter California standards. States adopting the California standards include Arizona (2012 model year),[1] Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico (2011 model year), New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia.[2][3] Such states are frequently referred to as "CARB states" in automotive discussions because the regulations are defined by the California Air Resources Board.
The EPA has adopted the California emissions standards as a national standard by the 2016 model year[4] and is collaborating with California regulators on stricter national emissions standards for model years 2017–2025.[5]
The EPA has adopted the California emissions standards as a national standard by the 2016 model year[4] and is collaborating with California regulators on stricter national emissions standards for model years 2017–2025.[5]
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