Engine Failure: Goodbye 2011 Q5 ...
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They said 8 pages of failure codes.
Also over this last month it had started burning through the oil like never before.
The thing that sucked was I called up there, said, hey this isn't normal for this, and they said, " anything over 1,000 miles Audi deems normal. Fill it up and let us know if it goes under 1,000 miles"
Then boom engine failure.
IMO, it was the oil consumption issue. However, like the other poster said, it gave Audi a way out.
Also over this last month it had started burning through the oil like never before.
The thing that sucked was I called up there, said, hey this isn't normal for this, and they said, " anything over 1,000 miles Audi deems normal. Fill it up and let us know if it goes under 1,000 miles"
Then boom engine failure.
IMO, it was the oil consumption issue. However, like the other poster said, it gave Audi a way out.
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"Didn't BMW initiate all scheduled maint included about 5 years ago into their warranty?"
Scheduled maintenance, these days, is not what it was 40 years ago. Spark plugs then were scheduled for a change every 3500 miles. Today? Often 50,000 miles and no plug wires to be changed at all.
Only a batch of air filters (engine & cabin) and the oil/filter pretty much, so considering that 5 years will be about 50,000 miles for most owners, and that will also ensure you bring the car in so they can sell you new brakes (which don't last as long as they used to, because that saves weight and money up front) and look for other profit makers.
Audi isn't significantly different from the rest of the industry that way.
That Audi engines haven't always had a reputation for durability, that there have been widely documented oil issues in some years, and that no maker is going to want to stand behind a "customized" engine, that's not surprising either. I'm a hard customer, but I can't disagree with a reseller saying they don't want any part of a chipped engine that is having issues. I'd expect a new engine, or an engine teardown, would cost more than my first TWO cars together did.
If a car is going to be auctioned at wholesale...better to sell it privately "as is" unless you really hate dealing with buyers.
Scheduled maintenance, these days, is not what it was 40 years ago. Spark plugs then were scheduled for a change every 3500 miles. Today? Often 50,000 miles and no plug wires to be changed at all.
Only a batch of air filters (engine & cabin) and the oil/filter pretty much, so considering that 5 years will be about 50,000 miles for most owners, and that will also ensure you bring the car in so they can sell you new brakes (which don't last as long as they used to, because that saves weight and money up front) and look for other profit makers.
Audi isn't significantly different from the rest of the industry that way.
That Audi engines haven't always had a reputation for durability, that there have been widely documented oil issues in some years, and that no maker is going to want to stand behind a "customized" engine, that's not surprising either. I'm a hard customer, but I can't disagree with a reseller saying they don't want any part of a chipped engine that is having issues. I'd expect a new engine, or an engine teardown, would cost more than my first TWO cars together did.
If a car is going to be auctioned at wholesale...better to sell it privately "as is" unless you really hate dealing with buyers.
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"Didn't BMW initiate all scheduled maint included about 5 years ago into their warranty?"
Scheduled maintenance, these days, is not what it was 40 years ago. Spark plugs then were scheduled for a change every 3500 miles. Today? Often 50,000 miles and no plug wires to be changed at all.
Only a batch of air filters (engine & cabin) and the oil/filter pretty much, so considering that 5 years will be about 50,000 miles for most owners, and that will also ensure you bring the car in so they can sell you new brakes (which don't last as long as they used to, because that saves weight and money up front) and look for other profit makers.
Scheduled maintenance, these days, is not what it was 40 years ago. Spark plugs then were scheduled for a change every 3500 miles. Today? Often 50,000 miles and no plug wires to be changed at all.
Only a batch of air filters (engine & cabin) and the oil/filter pretty much, so considering that 5 years will be about 50,000 miles for most owners, and that will also ensure you bring the car in so they can sell you new brakes (which don't last as long as they used to, because that saves weight and money up front) and look for other profit makers.
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Dunno about that. From the bmw.com web site:
"If you buy a new BMW, ...your BMW Service Centre now offers a warranty ...For the entire automobile (excluding the replacement of worn parts), ...
Brake pads are a consumable part, AFAIK if they fail that's one thing, but if they are simply worn out...that's ordinary wear, not warranty. But I'm not going to run out and buy one and drive with my foot on the brake pedal, to make sure of what they'll actually do.(G)
They've been very successful for a long time, in encouraging people to lease instead of buy, and their "zero maintenance" policy for lessees has been a pretty important part of that, IMO.
"If you buy a new BMW, ...your BMW Service Centre now offers a warranty ...For the entire automobile (excluding the replacement of worn parts), ...
Brake pads are a consumable part, AFAIK if they fail that's one thing, but if they are simply worn out...that's ordinary wear, not warranty. But I'm not going to run out and buy one and drive with my foot on the brake pedal, to make sure of what they'll actually do.(G)
They've been very successful for a long time, in encouraging people to lease instead of buy, and their "zero maintenance" policy for lessees has been a pretty important part of that, IMO.
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Dunno about that. From the bmw.com web site:
"If you buy a new BMW, ...your BMW Service Centre now offers a warranty ...For the entire automobile (excluding the replacement of worn parts), ...
Brake pads are a consumable part, AFAIK if they fail that's one thing, but if they are simply worn out...that's ordinary wear, not warranty.
"If you buy a new BMW, ...your BMW Service Centre now offers a warranty ...For the entire automobile (excluding the replacement of worn parts), ...
Brake pads are a consumable part, AFAIK if they fail that's one thing, but if they are simply worn out...that's ordinary wear, not warranty.
The BMW Maintenance Program covers all factory recommended maintenance as determined by the Condition Based Service (CBS) system. Additional specific items that need replacement due to normal wear and tear, and that are not covered by the original New Vehicle Limited Warranty - such as brake pads, brake rotors, and wiper blade inserts - are included, provided wear and tear exceeds BMW wear limits.