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Old 11-18-2013, 12:24 PM   #1
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I've found that a full tank of diesel at today's prices is just over the $75 pre-approval limit that most stations put on my credit card. This is really annoying because I've had it multiple times now shut off at $75, but I want to get it full, so I start a new transaction and get not even $1 in and then it overfills (presumably because it starts filling full blast while already near full)

Today it stopped again due to that limit, and I decided no longer to try again, but now I'm potentially throwing off my MPG calculations (at least in the short term - long term, it will be correct in aggregate).

$3.829/gal * 19.587 gal = $75.00

If only the fuel price would drop again/more, then I could fill up before hitting the $ limit.

I could choose to fill it part way (ie $25), then start again a new transaction and go until it hits the full limit, so it will shut off naturally without overfilling. But that's a pain if not needed.

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You could just fill up before you see the light come on. That would prevent you from having to put in 19+ gallons.
My fill ups are usually around $60-65 because of this.
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I should say that by "fillups" I mean the one fill up that I've had in the 1.5 months since purchase !
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I would just fill it up when you see the meter go down to a little past 1/4 empty.
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You could just fill up before you see the light come on. That would prevent you from having to put in 19+ gallons.
My fill ups are usually around $60-65 because of this.
True. But I'm aiming for 500 miles per tank

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I would just fill it up when you see the meter go down to a little past 1/4 empty.
No way, that would leave likely 200+ miles of used fuel in the tank. No sense in carting that around all the time and never use it. :P

When fuel light comes on, I recall it being around 45miles remaining (depending on your recent economy). When it gets to 0 miles remaining, there's roughly another maybe 50 miles (I'm chicken to test that out) remaining. So even waiting until the light comes on still has nearly 100 miles possible. That's the earliest I'd fill up if not for some other reason (filling up before roadtrip, etc). The only other thing often mentioned is 1/4 tank is a good rule of thumb for the winter (depending on your climate), to keep from freezing, risk of running out, etc.
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I should say that by "fillups" I mean the one fill up that I've had in the 1.5 months since purchase !
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Ironically I have the same issue here!
I full tank is £100 (yes, that's right, $161!!!), and the pre-approval limit on most stations is £99 so I run into the exact same thing of, do I leave it a squirt off full, or risk overfilling with a new transaction!
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I filled up last Friday (15th) and diesel was $3.459/US gallon here in Tulsa. Took 15.564 gallons…and calculated 26.5 mpg. Audi computer calculated 29 mpg. I usually fill up when I have 1/4 of a tank. Old habit. Most of those 411 miles were city driving.

We lucky Tulsa folks enjoy some of the lowest fuel prices in the Country, primarily due to the fact we have 3 refineries here and have very small fuel transportation costs. Secondly, competition is stiff due to the % of fuel sites to population.

If you aren't using an app like GasBuddy, it might benefit you.
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I filled up last Friday (15th) and diesel was $3.459/US gallon here in Tulsa. Took 15.564 gallons…and calculated 26.5 mpg. Audi computer calculated 29 mpg. I usually fill up when I have 1/4 of a tank. Old habit. Most of those 411 miles were city driving.

We lucky Tulsa folks enjoy some of the lowest fuel prices in the Country, primarily due to the fact we have 3 refineries here and have very small fuel transportation costs. Secondly, competition is stiff due to the % of fuel sites to population.

If you aren't using an app like GasBuddy, it might benefit you.
I do, and have been tracking prices for almost a year before getting my Q5 TDI to see how the prices compared to my A3's 93oct & considering MPG ...

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True. But I'm aiming for 500 miles per tank

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How big is the tank in the Q5? My A6 TDI has a 19.2 gal tank and I'm generally filling up with 550 miles on the tripometer and 30-40 miles showing to empty - almost without fail, the tank takes 17.5-17.8 gallons ($65-$70 @ $3.85/gal) at that point which averages out to 31 mpg over 4k miles (trip computer is showing 32.8 mpg so it's about 6% high).
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Saturday I found diesel for 3.45 a gallon nearby (SW of Chicago) - most places are still 3.79. At 3.45, it's only 10 cents more a gallon than our no lead is. THAT I can deal with, when no lead was 3.30 and diesel was 3.85, it really bugged me.

Compared to my previous truck that got 20MPG on required premium fuel, I benefit from lower diesel price compared to premium (which around here is 45 cents more than no lead) and at 32MPG compared to 20MPG, I can't complain whatever it costs me to fill up the tank. I have a spreadsheet that does a comparison calculation for me and in 1658 miles of driving so far, I've saved $121 dollars compared to driving the old truck.

You may be putting $75 bucks in Mark, but find some solace in knowing you won't have to do it very often.
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Saturday I found diesel for 3.45 a gallon nearby (SW of Chicago) - most places are still 3.79. At 3.45, it's only 10 cents more a gallon than our no lead is. THAT I can deal with, when no lead was 3.30 and diesel was 3.85, it really bugged me.

Compared to my previous truck that got 20MPG on required premium fuel, I benefit from lower diesel price compared to premium (which around here is 45 cents more than no lead) and at 32MPG compared to 20MPG, I can't complain whatever it costs me to fill up the tank. I have a spreadsheet that does a comparison calculation for me and in 1658 miles of driving so far, I've saved $121 dollars compared to driving the old truck.

You may be putting $75 bucks in Mark, but find some solace in knowing you won't have to do it very often.
Ha, thanks, I do!

And congrats on 32 MPG - very nice!

Ironically, I also have a sheet comparing my 93oct A3 vs my TDI Q5 with varying fuel prices. Mine isn't as dramatic as your difference, but it's still there
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How big is the tank in the Q5? My A6 TDI has a 19.2 gal tank and I'm generally filling up with 550 miles on the tripometer and 30-40 miles showing to empty - almost without fail, the tank takes 17.5-17.8 gallons ($65-$70 @ $3.85/gal) at that point which averages out to 31 mpg over 4k miles (trip computer is showing 32.8 mpg so it's about 6% high).
Q5 is quoted at 19.8 gallons, but there's clearly more space than that. I've been mostly filling up right around 0 miles remaining, some a little after. It seems there's still 2+ gallons after that.

Here's what I've been filling up with:

10.331
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18.848
15.989
19.839
19.597
20.021
18.891
19.587

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My card has a $100 limit.

The Q does have a rather large tank....at least it's not a cayenne or Touraeg with a 26 gallon tank.
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My card has a $100 limit.

The Q does have a rather large tank....at least it's not a cayenne or Touraeg with a 26 gallon tank.
I wonder if it's the card or the station? I would think the station would determine how much they are putting a "hold" on your card for???

I have a station-specific "rewards" card that gets me $0.03/gal discount before pumping and my PenFed Visa gets me 5% cashback (credited on each statement automatically) on Fuel purchases. So I'm quite fond of this station+card combo regardless
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I wonder if it's the card or the station? I would think the station would determine how much they are putting a "hold" on your card for???

I have a station-specific "rewards" card that gets me $0.03/gal discount before pumping and my PenFed Visa gets me 5% cashback (credited on each statement automatically) on Fuel purchases. So I'm quite fond of this station+card combo regardless
It's the station, and the limits often differ on debit cards vs. credit cards.
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So fill up sooner if u have a limit on your card.
Sounds like a no brainer.
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So fill up sooner if u have a limit on your card.
Sounds like a no brainer.
Nah, see here:
http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?p=24510426

No sense in accumulating more stops to fill up over time, and carting around fuel not to use. I'd rather just take the extra 30 seconds to stop in the middle of filling up to stop and restart a new transaction. That's more efficient than stopping at the gas station more often...

It's just annoying that the station I frequent most often has the limit so close to what I'm trying to fill to. Other stations may be different, but I don't want to hit the same limit there to find out. So I'll probably just get in the habit of filling $25 and start a new transaction...

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In Vancouver Canada, Shell v-power 91 costs $1.42 per litre.

so to fill up a q5 from empty to full costs $106.5. US gas price has always been 30% cheaper.....
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