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Old 02-04-2013, 11:04 AM   #1
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Hi Folks,

I purchased a 2010 Q5 and quickly realized that the MMI SW and map database are now down-rev. I gleamed the following from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi_Media_Interface

MMI 3G+ Software versions:
Software Version: Details
HNav_US_K0110_1_D1: North-America
HNav_US_P0110_D1: Shipped with 2010 Q5 Models for North-American market
HNav_US_P0114_D1: North-America
HNav_US_P0118_D1: North-America - Factory installed, fixes issue with punctuations in street names

MMI 3G+ Navigation Database Versions:

Nav. Database Version: Details
8R0-060-884-A NAR 5.2.3: North-America
8R0-060-884-F NAR 5.3.4: Shipped with 2010 Q5 Models for North-American market
8R0-060-884-P NAR 5.4.7: North-America
8R0-060-884-AD NAR 5.5.5: North-America - Factory installed, fixes issue with punctuations in street names
8R0-060-884-AL NAR 5.5.6: North-America 2011/2012

I have the version in bold.

Is there any benefit to upgrading the software? Is it even possible? Could there by any features or improvements I may be missing out on?

Same question regarding the maps... My dealer quoted me ~$200 to upgrade the map database. Yikes! Is that the only option? Can maps be hacked or downloaded from other sources? Are the newer maps noticeably better than the old ones?

Any guidance or education would be appreciated.

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Firmware for MMI update is free - when you buy a new map

Do not buy on the internet because it's a waste of money. You must go to the Audi dealer to activate map which is on-line

I think no one has hacked the system for navigation
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I think no one has hacked the system for navigation
Including Audi, right ?!?
one map update in 4 years
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Including Audi, right ?!?
one map update in 4 years
Of course including Audi
I really don't know why the problem is on the U.S. market.
In Europe was three upgrades
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Firmware for MMI update is free - when you buy a new map
Do you happen to know what SW/map combination is currently available in the US? Has anyone on the forum actually upgraded in this way? I'd be interested in hearing their feedback - particularly on the SW upgrade. I can imagine what better maps would feel like. However, are there any new enhancements, features, or bug fixes included in the SW update? For example, are my radio presets any easier to get to? Can I say "Presets" to avoid navigating through menus? Is the media "Mix" setting sticky now? Are the maps noticeably better? In other words... Would I get anything noticeable for the $200 upgrade?

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Honestly when we had ours done I didn't notice any changes -
and had to go looking for something that showed me there was actually a change

I have nav in both cars and actually still use my lifetime traffic and map updated Garmin's....
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I have nav in both cars and actually still use my lifetime traffic and map updated Garmin's....
Wow... that says a lot!
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Honestly when we had ours done I didn't notice any changes - and had to go looking for something that showed me there was actually a change
JohnBoyToo, how long ago did you do this upgrade? Can you check your version info screen and let me know what SW and map versions you ended up with?

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Wow, has it been 4 months ago

http://forums.audiworld.com/showpost...&postcount=344
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Thanks again!

What about the SW version? Did you end up with HNav_US_P0118_D1?

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I realize this is an old thread, but wondering if anyone did manage to update their maps/firmware for pre 2013 Q5's? I have a 2011, is it possible to get the latest maps?
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I realize this is an old thread, but wondering if anyone did manage to update their maps/firmware for pre 2013 Q5's? I have a 2011, is it possible to get the latest maps?
Yes is possible, you must visit dealers to upgrade software and maps

8R0-060-884-BD NAR 6.8.2 North-America version 2013/2014
8R0-060-884-BL NAR 6.9.2 North-America LAST VERSION 2014
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And be prepared to give your credit card a workout. U.S. Dealers appear to be charging $300-$400 to do the map updates.
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Thanks guys for the feedback - Are,there any significant updates in the software? Maps alone doesn't seem worth it at that price esp. since I've a garmin with lifetime maps/traffi from my previous car.
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AFAIK, the map updates only refresh the base map with road changes, etc. sourced from NavTeq and the MMI internal POIs (not the Audi Connect Google online search POIs which are separate and dynamic). For the ridiculous price charged, I'm going to wait at least three years from purchase before updating, especially since I regularly and mostly use Google search for POIs which are far more up to date anyway. Updated roads will have to wait.
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AFAIK, the map updates only refresh the base map with road changes, etc. sourced from NavTeq and the MMI internal POIs (not the Audi Connect Google online search POIs which are separate and dynamic). For the ridiculous price charged, I'm going to wait at least three years from purchase before updating, especially since I regularly and mostly use Google search for POIs which are far more up to date anyway. Updated roads will have to wait.
This is just plain sad considering my $300 Garmin has free lifetime updates and displays far more useful data. Not sure why the manufacturers continue to gouge people over nav maps and Audi isn't the only one. A nav disk for my TL was about $125 last time I checked.
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This is just plain sad considering my $300 Garmin has free lifetime updates and displays far more useful data. Not sure why the manufacturers continue to gouge people over nav maps and Audi isn't the only one. A nav disk for my TL was about $125 last time I checked.
I agree I have the Garmin as well with LMT. However, I did notice that Audi's maps seem to cover Hawaii, Mexico, Canada, and a few other places. I wonder if it's partially (not completely since it's significantly more ) more expensive because they have to license more map data? My Garmin covers US and Canada only. My BMW doesn't have Mexico and is about 200-300 for the update discs. At least there you don't need to get the dealer to do it.
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What's more frustrating/galling is that the majority of the cost is labor for the dealer to install the update, which is now a requirement for Nav Plus equipped models. The tech doesn't have to sit in the car for the full three hours or so to update the maps, but a service bay is occupied, ergo the hourly charges. This is one area that Audi (and other manf) need to change the update model to reflect something the PND manfs. have been doing for several years. My guess is Audi feels the consumer is not capable of doing their own updates or that they will mess something up. Or, they have decided to protect the dealers' service dept. revenue. Whatever the reason, I feel it's time for Audi to reconsider the map update method in the interest of customer service.
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When I asked in November 2013, the dealership said that map version 6.8.2 was the most current one. Does anyone know when 8R0-060-884-BL NAR 6.9.2 North-America LAST VERSION 2014 (per spijun) became available at US dealerships?
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8R0-060-884-BL NAR 6.9.2 North-America LAST VERSION 2014
What does "LAST VERSION" mean? Does it mean that there won't ever be 2015+ maps?
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