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The Shoe We Care About Has Dropped: SCR Systems Failing in TDIs Prematurely

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Old 02-09-2016, 02:06 PM
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^ It will take duress and that's what's coming for them. More lawsuits and amended ones too.
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>>Since 2012, the model year which has seen the most AdBlue failures to date, ??>>Volkswagen has redesigned the AdBlue heater and replacements shouldn’t run into the >>same issue in another 50,000 miles.

I have late 2013 Passat TDI at home. Will be watching this closely hoping that it has a new , redesigned heater. At the end of the day VW will have to cover it. It would be better for them to do it voluntarily.
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Originally Posted by tomaszp72
>>Since 2012, the model year which has seen the most AdBlue failures to date, ??>>Volkswagen has redesigned the AdBlue heater and replacements shouldn’t run into the >>same issue in another 50,000 miles.

I have late 2013 Passat TDI at home. Will be watching this closely hoping that it has a new , redesigned heater. At the end of the day VW will have to cover it. It would be better for them to do it voluntarily.
^^^^^^ Thanks for that.
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Originally Posted by tmfstyle
To kind of answer my own question:

http://www3.epa.gov/obd/pubs/420f15035.pdf

It would seem this issue should be covered for 8 years and 80,000 miles.
But don't get too excited. I had a 2006 Mercedes 500E that suffered from a common gas tank filler tube issue at 51 months and 22K miles. The repair required replacement of the gas tank at a cost of over $2k. In certain states (like California) it was covered by the EPA mandated warranty. In Florida (duh) and other states without rigorous emissions tests, it was not. Really ticked me off. I sold the car in 2010. In 2014 Mercedes, apparently under the threat of many law suits sent me an unsolicited check for about $2k. Likely that VW will do this repair gratis only under extreme duress.
Funny, my Nissan Rogue had a similar problem and the dealer wanted to replace the tank. It was $1200. I went on YouTube and found it was actually an $18 valve that was bad, and took me 10 minutes to replace!
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^ This is pretty common, which is why it's a good idea to do ones homework before letting anyone work on a car.

Once needed a door lock actuator fixed in my Lexus. $650 from the dealer, or ten cents to replace a faulty part myself.
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Originally Posted by Don Keener
We dont have cliffs in Florida... too flat... How about into the ocean?
I don't know, we don't have oceans in Texas...
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Originally Posted by tmfstyle
To kind of answer my own question:

http://www3.epa.gov/obd/pubs/420f15035.pdf

It would seem this issue should be covered for 8 years and 80,000 miles.
But don't get too excited. I had a 2006 Mercedes 500E that suffered from a common gas tank filler tube issue at 51 months and 22K miles. The repair required replacement of the gas tank at a cost of over $2k. In certain states (like California) it was covered by the EPA mandated warranty. In Florida (duh) and other states without rigorous emissions tests, it was not. Really ticked me off. I sold the car in 2010. In 2014 Mercedes, apparently under the threat of many law suits sent me an unsolicited check for about $2k. Likely that VW will do this repair gratis only under extreme duress.
VW covers it for 36k miles under the bumper to bumper warranty. There are a lot of people on TDI Club who have had to pay out of pocket for it. VW covers some of it when the owner calls and complains normally. I'm hoping the heater in my 2013 doesn't go out. I fill the DEF tank every few months to prevent something like this from happening.
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Originally Posted by ParadigmDawg
I have yet to keep a car to 50,000 miles so I will continue my string....
$2-5k in repairs vs. $10-15k in depreciation for a new car. Ya, keeping cars is a terrible choice.
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Originally Posted by motoguy128
$2-5k in repairs vs. $10-15k in depreciation for a new car. Ya, keeping cars is a terrible choice.
Keeping cars isn't a good or bad choice, either is trading frequently. They are both just choices each with their own pros and cons.

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Originally Posted by Q5 Bob
Keeping cars isn't a good or bad choice, either is trading frequently. They are both just choices each with their own pros and cons.
Undoubtedly its a personal choice. However the cost of keeping vs trading is most often in favor of keeping. I normally do not to keep a car more than 4 years (25000 miles or less) because I place high value on reliability. But pure arithmetic argues for keeping cars much longer.


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