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Old 09-29-2010, 01:15 PM   #21
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That's the FORD I know and love. I owned one and I swore it would be the last.
Just thought of a short little story that came to mind after reading your post. Many years ago, more than I care to remember, I bought an umpteenth-hand 1966 Ford Econoline (flatnose). Affectionately known as our "Team Bus" as I drove the guys to our weekly softball games.

I noticed a few weeks after I bought it the letters on the rear doors had been re-arranged to: DORF. I left it like that. It seemed to fit .
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Haldex is Swedish multiclutch brand and so far it is only unit that is able to generate clamping power to make true 50/50 torque distribution and that is why it is most expensive system.
I am pretty sure you know that, but the Q5 doesn't use the Haldex clutch. It uses a Torsen differential for its Quattro system.
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haldex needs to sense slippage before it activates the mechanism, torsen transfers power as a wheel begins to slip. that is the quattro advantage. you get power back to the road faster.
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Com' on guys, I went to re-read my post and I don't see me saying Q5 haves Haldex, all I see is "Q5 is mechanical system".

Audi uses Haldex only on TT and A3 that haves electrical control.

Haldex does not need to detect slippage as VW locks it for full throttle launch and European off-road package "Track & Field" button activates the Haldex lock to provide constant 50/50 split for rougher terrain. On normal daily drive, the computer measures steering angle, acceleration / deceleration and from all possible sensors it calculates possible trajectories and activates Haldex or wheel brakes as needed. Sure it is activated if sudden slippage is detected.

I had VW Tiguan 4motion before Q5 so I know how it handless during the normal drive and intended 4 wheel drift on the icy warehouse yard.

R8 haves VISCO that is automatic as silicone fluid reacts to shear effect and heat between the multidics clutch.

The rest, A4, A5, A6, A8, Q5 and Q7 haves Torsen mechanical differential.

Anyways, Edge should not be dompared to Q5, rather to VW Tiguan or Toyota Rav4

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Great question. This is EXACTLY the choice i was making. The new Edge is sweet. I didn't drive one, and I doubt it drives like the Audi, and it isn't of Audi quality, but its a good next best thing. I said in both, and ultimately went Audi once the Audi dealer offered me 8 grand more on my 2009 A5 trade in than did Ford.

Actually hadn't even thought about the Q5 until i realized the Edge Sport was gonna run us 43k with the options. So then we started doing the math and opted instead to get a loaded to the gills pre owned certified s line Q5. Couldn't be happier. Resale will be better here too. And this thing really does drive just like my A did. Its a sports coupe just bigger.
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Old 09-29-2010, 04:41 PM   #26
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I know nothing about what is under the hood or driving performance (that is why I posted here to get some feedback from you guys), though I can say with certainty that the technology in the Ford is amazing. I'm not necessarily going to use all of these features, though the attention to detail that Ford put into this is really nice:
- it reads your texts to you
- you can speak your texts to it
- it shows pics of person calling you
- you can plug a video camera into it to watch videos on the nav screen or a SD card to play pics (maybe if you are on a trip)
- you can customize the image that displays on the home screen
- it displays and speaks to you sports scores, movie times, gas prices, stock prices, news
- can use the car as a wifi hub for people in car with laptops


Thanks guys!
all of that is useless and takes away from driving. it makes your vehicle more dangerous than it already is. not a good idea at all.
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:53 PM   #27
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all of that is useless and takes away from driving. it makes your vehicle more dangerous than it already is. not a good idea at all.
To each his own. I take it you ordered your vehicles sans sound system?
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Now if we can only bring the two together . . . (sync and Audi) then we would be in heaven
Do we really want Microsoft software in our Audi's?

We were testing a 2011 Edge w/the newest SYNC system in it and the voice recognition locked the whole system up for several minutes before finally crashing and rebooting. It took over 30 seconds for the system to restart.

The direction Audi will be heading in the future will be really impressive. No, I can't tell you anything else. ;-)
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Agree with not wanting Microsoft in my car. I dont want to be bothered with questions like "Are you sure you want to listen to this Song? Yes No Cancel" and seeing Blue Screens.

Audi uses QNX in the new A8 MMI as an operating system which is awesome. It is also going to be used in the new Blackberry tablet - Playbook. So it will probably have seemless integration with your cell phone .
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To each his own. I take it you ordered your vehicles sans sound system?
Agreed. A lot of folks in here are being way defensive of Audi. It's probably a closer call than you care to admit in some ways, though the Q is still the clear winner.
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To each his own. I take it you ordered your vehicles sans sound system?
there are many times where i don't drive with any music, just listen to the engine and the road and the wind go by. i never blast music super loud that i can't hear anything. if anything its a quiet undertone.

music is one thing, ur sense of hearing isn't used much while driving, reading a text message and thinking to respond and fighting with voice recognition while driving, bad idea. i'm sorry i live in NYC, our roads are terrible narrow and curvy, always full of traffic, there is no time for that unless you want an accident to happen.

You realize that with German cars, they're built for people that enjoy driving. hell my BMW's one cupholder is out of immediate reach of the driver.

just my .02 cents cause there are people who can multi-task behind the wheel and are decent drivers. my cousin had a G35 Stick, He would drive it, go around a corner talking on his cellphone to his ear while eating a bagel and shifting gears. not bad at all! but not safe either, mind you he lives in florida...
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To each his own. I take it you ordered your vehicles sans sound system?

Coolie is right with this topic.

I hope you are not one of those "no hear no see" who blast music while texting and fighting the stuck voice command system and while focusing to everything else than the main task itself, the driving, you endangerer others on the road. Those folks are always the last ones to see the emergency lights and vehicles approaching and so on.

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Agree with not wanting Microsoft in my car. I dont want to be bothered with questions like "Are you sure you want to listen to this Song? Yes No Cancel" and seeing Blue Screens.

Audi uses QNX in the new A8 MMI as an operating system which is awesome. It is also going to be used in the new Blackberry tablet - Playbook. So it will probably have seemless integration with your cell phone .
I've been working with QNX for the last year on a few projects. ;-)
The Playbook is going to be a very interesting device.
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there are many times where i don't drive with any music, just listen to the engine and the road and the wind go by. i never blast music super loud that i can't hear anything. if anything its a quiet undertone.

music is one thing, ur sense of hearing isn't used much while driving, reading a text message and thinking to respond and fighting with voice recognition while driving, bad idea. i'm sorry i live in NYC, our roads are terrible narrow and curvy, always full of traffic, there is no time for that unless you want an accident to happen.

You realize that with German cars, they're built for people that enjoy driving. hell my BMW's one cupholder is out of immediate reach of the driver.

just my .02 cents cause there are people who can multi-task behind the wheel and are decent drivers. my cousin had a G35 Stick, He would drive it, go around a corner talking on his cellphone to his ear while eating a bagel and shifting gears. not bad at all! but not safe either, mind you he lives in florida...
Agree. A couple of months ago, I was driving to NYC on Rte 3 - it was early - about 6:30 AM, before the traffic got heavy, and was fiddling for a second or two with one of the music controls and swerved into the rt lane. The other driver swerved and honked (I deserved that); if he didn't I would have caused an accident. It only take a second of being distracted and taking your eyes off the road to get into trouble big time.
As regards very loud music, there are some songs that just sound so nice when playing at high volume, but I do it for just a song ot two and never in heavy traffic or on city streets - what the heck would happen if a didn't hear that fire engine or police siren? Just another thing I think is too dangerous to engage in. Like Coolieman, I just like to listen to the engine hum.

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I don't know about this thread, how can anyone think that a Ford Flex is the equivalent of an Audi just because it has Microsoft sync?
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Man what are you talking about, I thought comparing Edge to Q5 is hit below the belt and now you bring up the Flex....
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Coolie is right with this topic.

I hope you are not one of those "no hear no see" who blast music while texting and fighting the stuck voice command system and while focusing to everything else than the main task itself, the driving, you endangerer others on the road. Those folks are always the last ones to see the emergency lights and vehicles approaching and so on.
No I don't blast my music and most of the time I don't even know where my cell phone is so I'm not a distracted driver. Anything can be distracting in a car. Hell American got sued for the signs they had up at DFW because some idiot was too busy trying to figure out where he was going vs paying attention to what he was doing and wrecked. I'm actually all for having a car shielded where you can't even get cell phone reception. Have people forgotten what life was like before them? Really it's that important? I commented on the whole thread because who is anyone to say what is useless techo bling and what isn't. You think everyone was crazy about getting radios in their car? I'm sure some folks pointed out they'd be a distraction. I remember in the 80s they ran awareness promos about not playing with the radio in the car. The one I remember was the guy who missed seeing the ball roll out in the street and the little girl behind it because he was changing the station. People are going to text regardless of the consequences so at least they're trying to use technology to make it not so distracting (ie reading your text msg to you vs you looking at it).
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Man what are you talking about, I thought comparing Edge to Q5 is hit below the belt and now you bring up the Flex....
I meant to say the edge, sorry.
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People are going to text regardless of the consequences so at least they're trying to use technology to make it not so distracting (ie reading your text msg to you vs you looking at it).
Reading your text msg to you vs you looking at it? do you mean like a actual phone call?
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Reading your text msg to you vs you looking at it? do you mean like a actual phone call?
Holy cow, the LAST thing I need is for other people in the car to hear MY text messages lol
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