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Old 03-12-2014, 06:36 AM   #1
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First post here and first time owning an Audi...we got a 2013 Q5 2.0T for my wife last year and so far we love the car, but just came across a problem and wanted some feedback from you guys:

I tried changing the oil myself but for some reason the oil filter is stuck on so dang tight! The thing will not budge, I have tried 5 different types of oil wrenches with no success. I have actually put a decent sized dent in the side of the filter as well, trying to get it to turn.

Is this a common issue on these cars? I have been changing the oil on all types of cars for a decade and have never come across an oil filter that is on so tightly. Do you all have any tips? I am tempted to just take it to the dealer but I'm afraid they will throw a fit and try to tack on additional charges for my mistake.


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Avi, who installed the filter?
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I've got one of these:

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Over the years it's never failed me. However, it absolutely destroys the filter and yields an undrivable car should there be something more serious going on at the base of the filter... This is a last resort tool, but it is effective. Not sure of the brand. Maybe Lisle?
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Default Or its variant, the big boy channel locks...

the point being, intentionally squeeze into the oil filter shell and bend it if needed to get enough grip.

The 2.0T filter actually has a male metal bushing built into the end almost like a pipe fitting, instead of the typical few female threads worth you see with a typical spin on; could be why it is hanging up more, combined with a seal that wasn't coated with a little oil when spun onto a clean face.
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Pour the old oil back in and take it to the dealer or a JiffyLube with a new filter in hand. If you destroy that filter and the head is still attached to the engine you'll be in a real spot, and have to have the car towed.

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Avi, who installed the filter?

The dealership did after the initial break-in service.
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I've got one of these:

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Over the years it's never failed me. However, it absolutely destroys the filter and yields an undrivable car should there be something more serious going on at the base of the filter... This is a last resort tool, but it is effective. Not sure of the brand. Maybe Lisle?

This was one of the 5 tools I used .
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This was one of the 5 tools I used .
That's not good.
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There are two models of the filter on the engine 2.0
Standard model and with interchangeable cartridge

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The dealership did after the initial break-in service.
Typical dealer....crank it on and let the next guy worry about it. For stuck spin-on filters, I've used nails punched through the filter (extreme case after I collapsed the filter), strap wrenches and "jaws". All eventually worked. ....and in each case, the ridiculous measures were needed after either the factory or a dealer installed the previous filter...
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...For stuck spin-on filters, I've used nails punched through the filter (extreme case after I collapsed the filter)...
Ha! I tried something similar too. Punched a screwdriver straight through the filter. With the screwdriver handle, it was a piece of cake to spin it off. But that was in the 1980's, when I was young and reckless...
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I've done the screwdriver trick as well (assisted by a hammer) but it is absolutely last resort and could leave your car inoperable if it doesn't work. Personally if it's this bad, I would notify the dealer that did the work, unless you never plan to return there for service.
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Ha! I tried something similar too. Punched a screwdriver straight through the filter. With the screwdriver handle, it was a piece of cake to spin it off. But that was in the 1980's, when I was young and reckless...
LOL! I hear ya 81Coupe! I used to be young and reckless too. Now I'm just old and don't give shi.....
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I've done the screwdriver trick as well (assisted by a hammer) but it is absolutely last resort and could leave your car inoperable if it doesn't work. Personally if it's this bad, I would notify the dealer that did the work, unless you never plan to return there for service.

Thanks for all the replies guys! I contacted the service manager at the dealership that did the previous oil change (who happens to be fishing buddies with my wife's uncle) and he said he'd take care of me. I was about to resort to the screwdriver method but couldn't risk the car being out of commission haha.
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Thanks for all the replies guys! I contacted the service manager at the dealership that did the previous oil change (who happens to be fishing buddies with my wife's uncle) and he said he'd take care of me. I was about to resort to the screwdriver method but couldn't risk the car being out of commission haha.
Thanks for the closure reply coogs. A lot of times people ask questions, long-time forum members invest their time answering, and then we never hear the outcome. Glad it worked out for you. Plus of course, the service manager has a record of who incorrectly installed the previous oil filter and presumably had a "discussion" with him or her.
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Thanks for the closure reply coogs. A lot of times people ask questions, long-time forum members invest their time answering, and then we never hear the outcome. Glad it worked out for you. Plus of course, the service manager has a record of who incorrectly installed the previous oil filter and presumably had a "discussion" with him or her.
Of course! I am very active on the M3 forums so I know how you feel.

I plan to take the car this coming Thursday and will come back with another reply after seeing what the dealer has to say about this.

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Just FYI guys, took it to the dealer and they were able to get it off and consequently threw in a free oil change for me. I thought that was very nice and professional of them. I also made sure to tell the SA 100x to lube the seal on the filter and not overtighten it!
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I used a 18" pipe wrench. It's rather difficult to get a good grip on the filter because of the things around it. But once you do, the steel teeth bites into the metal can and crushes it a little. Now you can start turning the darn thing.
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Go to your local auto parts store and get an oil filter wrench. It's a handle with a belt loop that tightens around the filter can. They're cheap and handy.
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Go to your local auto parts store and get an oil filter wrench. It's a handle with a belt loop that tightens around the filter can. They're cheap and handy.
Xenon you're absolutely right, always get the right tool for the job. What we're talkin' here is when the old oil filter is on soooooooooo tight, it collapses using a proper wrench and you're scratching your head (after of course going through all the "bad words" in the English language in like less than a minute.) For such situations, I stick with what works: lag bolt/screwdriver/prayer etc...
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