VW: we are done with diesel push in the US
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There will likely be a market for unfixed diesels, but for people like me who turn over cars every 3-4 years, I doubt that diesels will again be an option. For skilled do it yourselfers, and professional mechanics diesels could be very attractive at a price. Similar to the market for high end 12 cylinder Merc's and BMW's which can be prohibitively expensive to maintain and repair for most people. If I still owned the TDI I would accept a reasonable buy back offer and regretfully move on.
#12
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I owned a 2015 Q5 TDI for almost a year before it was totaled by a reckless driver. Never owned a diesel before but quickly became a big fan of the torque, mileage, range and effortless power delivery. I thought any new car (other than sports cars) I would buy would likely be a diesel. I believed that fixes for current cars would likely impact performance and reliability but that, in time "clean" diesels could be engineered and I would be in the market again. Over time, I have read that NOX emissions are a big problem for all manufacturers of diesels, and barring a technological breakthrough, diesels will likely be phased out in the U.S. There will likely be a market for unfixed diesels, but for people like me who turn over cars every 3-4 years, I doubt that diesels will again be an option. For skilled do it yourselfers, and professional mechanics diesels could be very attractive at a price. Similar to the market for high end 12 cylinder Merc's and BMW's which can be prohibitively expensive to maintain and repair for most people. If I still owned the TDI I would accept a reasonable buy back offer and regretfully move on.
#13
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Likely in my view. Local Chevron replaced diesel with non-ethanol because expected demand did not materialize for him.
#14
Yeah, it definitely feels like diesel is going to falter, despite it's popularity in Europe.
Especially now that Audi/VW are focusing a third of all R&D towards electric vehicles. Long term, electric vehicles are the right way to go.
Especially now that Audi/VW are focusing a third of all R&D towards electric vehicles. Long term, electric vehicles are the right way to go.
#15
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There are still loads of trucks and buses that need diesel, and they're going to be on the road for years. At worst, availability will decline in urban areas where trucks etc. are less likely to fill up.
#16
It will depend if the so called "fix" was done or not. I think pretty much anyone would agree that any "fix", if it happens at all, will certainly decrease performance in some way which will possibly drive the value down. If on the other hand no fix is done then my guess would be diesels will actually go up in value. Good old supply and demand will kick in. Time will tell. Stay tuned.
A better workaround would be to have the fix done, then override it with an easily-reversible aftermarket tune. Unless that becomes illegal, too, of course. Given the attention the subject is getting, I wouldn't be surprised.
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