iPhone and Bluetooth
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Same here .. I don't hear any notifications, either from MMI or the phone, when the phone is in the car. No text message sounds, no sound when locking/unlocking the phone, etc.
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It seems to me that everyone is saying something different here. Let me see if I can clarify how it's supposed to work:
First things first...
PAIRING = The act of "introducing" your Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) to your MMI system for the very first time.
CONNECTING = The act of establishing an "on and ready to play" relationship between your previously paired Bluetooth device and your MMI system.
1. When your iPhone is paired with - and connected to - your MMI system, you will hear NOTHING from the speakers built into your iPhone. The only way to hear chimes, clicks, beeps, and, of course, music from your iPhone is to select "Media" as your MMI mode and then select your iPhone as the media source (at which point you'll hear all of those sounds through the speakers in your Audi).
2. In the event that two or more passengers are in the car, all of whom have previously paired their stereo Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) with the MMI system, the MMI system will automatically connect to the most recently PAIRED device. In this case, your iPhone may NOT be connected and, as a result, chimes, clicks, beeps and music will play through your iPhone speakers.
3. By way of the Bluetooth settings menu within the MMI system, any previously paired OR new device can be toggled on or off for both music playback and communications (so, in theory, the driver could manually connect his/her iPhone for communications while the passenger connects his/her iPhone for music playback).
In my family, I'm the primary driver, so I deliberately paired MY iPhone with the MMI first and THEN paired my wife's iPhone second. This, in turn, established a device priority that automatically connects to MY iPhone when I'm driving alone, and MY WIFE'S iPhone when I'm driving with her in the passenger seat (because I know she's going to want to stream the music from HER collection while I drive).
So the only way to hear chimes, clicks and beeps from your iPhone is to either A.) manually disconnect your iPhone from the MMI system using the Bluetooth settings menu or B.) ride in the car with someone else who has a Bluetooth device that was MORE RECENTLY paired with the MMI system.
Longwinded, but thorough and helpful I hope!
Nathan
First things first...
PAIRING = The act of "introducing" your Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) to your MMI system for the very first time.
CONNECTING = The act of establishing an "on and ready to play" relationship between your previously paired Bluetooth device and your MMI system.
1. When your iPhone is paired with - and connected to - your MMI system, you will hear NOTHING from the speakers built into your iPhone. The only way to hear chimes, clicks, beeps, and, of course, music from your iPhone is to select "Media" as your MMI mode and then select your iPhone as the media source (at which point you'll hear all of those sounds through the speakers in your Audi).
2. In the event that two or more passengers are in the car, all of whom have previously paired their stereo Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) with the MMI system, the MMI system will automatically connect to the most recently PAIRED device. In this case, your iPhone may NOT be connected and, as a result, chimes, clicks, beeps and music will play through your iPhone speakers.
3. By way of the Bluetooth settings menu within the MMI system, any previously paired OR new device can be toggled on or off for both music playback and communications (so, in theory, the driver could manually connect his/her iPhone for communications while the passenger connects his/her iPhone for music playback).
In my family, I'm the primary driver, so I deliberately paired MY iPhone with the MMI first and THEN paired my wife's iPhone second. This, in turn, established a device priority that automatically connects to MY iPhone when I'm driving alone, and MY WIFE'S iPhone when I'm driving with her in the passenger seat (because I know she's going to want to stream the music from HER collection while I drive).
So the only way to hear chimes, clicks and beeps from your iPhone is to either A.) manually disconnect your iPhone from the MMI system using the Bluetooth settings menu or B.) ride in the car with someone else who has a Bluetooth device that was MORE RECENTLY paired with the MMI system.
Longwinded, but thorough and helpful I hope!
Nathan
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It seems to me that everyone is saying something different here. Let me see if I can clarify how it's supposed to work:
First things first...
PAIRING = The act of "introducing" your Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) to your MMI system for the very first time.
CONNECTING = The act of establishing an "on and ready to play" relationship between your previously paired Bluetooth device and your MMI system.
1. When your iPhone is paired with - and connected to - your MMI system, you will hear NOTHING from the speakers built into your iPhone. The only way to hear chimes, clicks, beeps, and, of course, music from your iPhone is to select "Media" as your MMI mode and then select your iPhone as the media source (at which point you'll hear all of those sounds through the speakers in your Audi).
2. In the event that two or more passengers are in the car, all of whom have previously paired their stereo Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) with the MMI system, the MMI system will automatically connect to the most recently PAIRED device. In this case, your iPhone may NOT be connected and, as a result, chimes, clicks, beeps and music will play through your iPhone speakers.
3. By way of the Bluetooth settings menu within the MMI system, any previously paired OR new device can be toggled on or off for both music playback and communications (so, in theory, the driver could manually connect his/her iPhone for communications while the passenger connects his/her iPhone for music playback).
In my family, I'm the primary driver, so I deliberately paired MY iPhone with the MMI first and THEN paired my wife's iPhone second. This, in turn, established a device priority that automatically connects to MY iPhone when I'm driving alone, and MY WIFE'S iPhone when I'm driving with her in the passenger seat (because I know she's going to want to stream the music from HER collection while I drive).
So the only way to hear chimes, clicks and beeps from your iPhone is to either A.) manually disconnect your iPhone from the MMI system using the Bluetooth settings menu or B.) ride in the car with someone else who has a Bluetooth device that was MORE RECENTLY paired with the MMI system.
Longwinded, but thorough and helpful I hope!
Nathan
First things first...
PAIRING = The act of "introducing" your Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) to your MMI system for the very first time.
CONNECTING = The act of establishing an "on and ready to play" relationship between your previously paired Bluetooth device and your MMI system.
1. When your iPhone is paired with - and connected to - your MMI system, you will hear NOTHING from the speakers built into your iPhone. The only way to hear chimes, clicks, beeps, and, of course, music from your iPhone is to select "Media" as your MMI mode and then select your iPhone as the media source (at which point you'll hear all of those sounds through the speakers in your Audi).
2. In the event that two or more passengers are in the car, all of whom have previously paired their stereo Bluetooth device (e.g. iPhone) with the MMI system, the MMI system will automatically connect to the most recently PAIRED device. In this case, your iPhone may NOT be connected and, as a result, chimes, clicks, beeps and music will play through your iPhone speakers.
3. By way of the Bluetooth settings menu within the MMI system, any previously paired OR new device can be toggled on or off for both music playback and communications (so, in theory, the driver could manually connect his/her iPhone for communications while the passenger connects his/her iPhone for music playback).
In my family, I'm the primary driver, so I deliberately paired MY iPhone with the MMI first and THEN paired my wife's iPhone second. This, in turn, established a device priority that automatically connects to MY iPhone when I'm driving alone, and MY WIFE'S iPhone when I'm driving with her in the passenger seat (because I know she's going to want to stream the music from HER collection while I drive).
So the only way to hear chimes, clicks and beeps from your iPhone is to either A.) manually disconnect your iPhone from the MMI system using the Bluetooth settings menu or B.) ride in the car with someone else who has a Bluetooth device that was MORE RECENTLY paired with the MMI system.
Longwinded, but thorough and helpful I hope!
Nathan
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My guess is that Audi struggles to explain it that way due to a lack of understanding. While I can't be sure other phones operate in the same manner, the iPhone, by design, sends all OS sounds to the connected Bluetooth speaker system if that system (MMI, in our case) supports the A2DP (stereo audio streaming) profile.
Is it possible that:
- Your Q5 was NOT selected as the preferred audio output on your iPhone all that time (iOS 7+ : swipe up from the bottom of the screen, tap "AirPlay" and then confirm whether "iPhone" or "[enter your Q5's name here]" is selected)?
- Your MMI system was connected to your iPhone in communications mode only rather than communications and audio/music?
- There was someone else in the car with a Bluetooth device that was more recently paired than yours?
If you were driving around, by yourself, listening to music streamed from your iPhone to your MMI while continuing to hear OS sounds (chimes, clicks, beeps, etc.) from your iPhone's built in speakers, then we have a mystery on our hands, for sure. To be clear, I'm not saying that isn't possible. It SHOULDN'T be possible, but I've worked in the consumer tech industry for 15 years and I've seen crazier things.
And by the way...If you figure out how to repeat the anomoly, please report back. I've actually always wished that I could stream music to my Q5's speakers while still hearing OS sounds through the iPhone's built in speakers.
Nathan
Is it possible that:
- Your Q5 was NOT selected as the preferred audio output on your iPhone all that time (iOS 7+ : swipe up from the bottom of the screen, tap "AirPlay" and then confirm whether "iPhone" or "[enter your Q5's name here]" is selected)?
- Your MMI system was connected to your iPhone in communications mode only rather than communications and audio/music?
- There was someone else in the car with a Bluetooth device that was more recently paired than yours?
If you were driving around, by yourself, listening to music streamed from your iPhone to your MMI while continuing to hear OS sounds (chimes, clicks, beeps, etc.) from your iPhone's built in speakers, then we have a mystery on our hands, for sure. To be clear, I'm not saying that isn't possible. It SHOULDN'T be possible, but I've worked in the consumer tech industry for 15 years and I've seen crazier things.
And by the way...If you figure out how to repeat the anomoly, please report back. I've actually always wished that I could stream music to my Q5's speakers while still hearing OS sounds through the iPhone's built in speakers.
Nathan
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My guess is that Audi struggles to explain it that way due to a lack of understanding. While I can't be sure other phones operate in the same manner, the iPhone, by design, sends all OS sounds to the connected Bluetooth speaker system if that system (MMI, in our case) supports the A2DP (stereo audio streaming) profile.
Is it possible that:
- Your Q5 was NOT selected as the preferred audio output on your iPhone all that time (iOS 7+ : swipe up from the bottom of the screen, tap "AirPlay" and then confirm whether "iPhone" or "[enter your Q5's name here]" is selected)?
- Your MMI system was connected to your iPhone in communications mode only rather than communications and audio/music?
- There was someone else in the car with a Bluetooth device that was more recently paired than yours?
If you were driving around, by yourself, listening to music streamed from your iPhone to your MMI while continuing to hear OS sounds (chimes, clicks, beeps, etc.) from your iPhone's built in speakers, then we have a mystery on our hands, for sure. To be clear, I'm not saying that isn't possible. It SHOULDN'T be possible, but I've worked in the consumer tech industry for 15 years and I've seen crazier things.
And by the way...If you figure out how to repeat the anomoly, please report back. I've actually always wished that I could stream music to my Q5's speakers while still hearing OS sounds through the iPhone's built in speakers.
Nathan
Is it possible that:
- Your Q5 was NOT selected as the preferred audio output on your iPhone all that time (iOS 7+ : swipe up from the bottom of the screen, tap "AirPlay" and then confirm whether "iPhone" or "[enter your Q5's name here]" is selected)?
- Your MMI system was connected to your iPhone in communications mode only rather than communications and audio/music?
- There was someone else in the car with a Bluetooth device that was more recently paired than yours?
If you were driving around, by yourself, listening to music streamed from your iPhone to your MMI while continuing to hear OS sounds (chimes, clicks, beeps, etc.) from your iPhone's built in speakers, then we have a mystery on our hands, for sure. To be clear, I'm not saying that isn't possible. It SHOULDN'T be possible, but I've worked in the consumer tech industry for 15 years and I've seen crazier things.
And by the way...If you figure out how to repeat the anomoly, please report back. I've actually always wished that I could stream music to my Q5's speakers while still hearing OS sounds through the iPhone's built in speakers.
Nathan
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My guess is that Audi struggles to explain it that way due to a lack of understanding. While I can't be sure other phones operate in the same manner, the iPhone, by design, sends all OS sounds to the connected Bluetooth speaker system if that system (MMI, in our case) supports the A2DP (stereo audio streaming) profile.
Is it possible that:
- Your Q5 was NOT selected as the preferred audio output on your iPhone all that time (iOS 7+ : swipe up from the bottom of the screen, tap "AirPlay" and then confirm whether "iPhone" or "[enter your Q5's name here]" is selected).
I didn't even know this was here and have never changed it. When I checked after your thread, it was selected to my car
- Your MMI system was connected to your iPhone in communications mode only rather than communications and audio/music?
It's set and has been to audio and music
- There was someone else in the car with a Bluetooth device that was more recently paired than yours?
No
If you were driving around, by yourself, listening to music streamed from your iPhone to your MMI while continuing to hear OS sounds (chimes, clicks, beeps, etc.) from your iPhone's built in speakers, then we have a mystery on our hands, for sure. To be clear, I'm not saying that isn't possible. It SHOULDN'T be possible, but I've worked in the consumer tech industry for 15 years and I've seen crazier things.
I very rarely have my streaming on. But others in this post have said that's the only way to hear the sounds is to have streaming on.
And by the way...If you figure out how to repeat the anomoly, please report back. I've actually always wished that I could stream music to my Q5's speakers while still hearing OS sounds through the iPhone's built in speakers.
Nathan
Is it possible that:
- Your Q5 was NOT selected as the preferred audio output on your iPhone all that time (iOS 7+ : swipe up from the bottom of the screen, tap "AirPlay" and then confirm whether "iPhone" or "[enter your Q5's name here]" is selected).
I didn't even know this was here and have never changed it. When I checked after your thread, it was selected to my car
- Your MMI system was connected to your iPhone in communications mode only rather than communications and audio/music?
It's set and has been to audio and music
- There was someone else in the car with a Bluetooth device that was more recently paired than yours?
No
If you were driving around, by yourself, listening to music streamed from your iPhone to your MMI while continuing to hear OS sounds (chimes, clicks, beeps, etc.) from your iPhone's built in speakers, then we have a mystery on our hands, for sure. To be clear, I'm not saying that isn't possible. It SHOULDN'T be possible, but I've worked in the consumer tech industry for 15 years and I've seen crazier things.
I very rarely have my streaming on. But others in this post have said that's the only way to hear the sounds is to have streaming on.
And by the way...If you figure out how to repeat the anomoly, please report back. I've actually always wished that I could stream music to my Q5's speakers while still hearing OS sounds through the iPhone's built in speakers.
Nathan
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Sounds like we have a few different issues going on here. All of them are somewhat mysterious!
I just sat in my Q5 after a trip to the store in an effort to replicate these issues. Although I couldn't replicate them exactly, I did notice odd behavior when I selected "iPhone" from my AirPlay menu rather than "Q5." When "Q5" is selected, it streams audio as I would expect while "Media" and "iPhone" is selected on the MMI. When I change the iPhone AirPlay setting to "iPhone," it still streams audio through that setting but will ALSO stream music, OS sounds, and Siri through the Q5's speakers EVEN WHEN I HAVE "RADIO" SELECTED as my MMI source! Now THAT is odd.
So the moral of the story is: It SHOULD work THIS way but might ALSO work THAT way and PERIODICALLY will work the OTHER way.
Problem solved!
I just sat in my Q5 after a trip to the store in an effort to replicate these issues. Although I couldn't replicate them exactly, I did notice odd behavior when I selected "iPhone" from my AirPlay menu rather than "Q5." When "Q5" is selected, it streams audio as I would expect while "Media" and "iPhone" is selected on the MMI. When I change the iPhone AirPlay setting to "iPhone," it still streams audio through that setting but will ALSO stream music, OS sounds, and Siri through the Q5's speakers EVEN WHEN I HAVE "RADIO" SELECTED as my MMI source! Now THAT is odd.
So the moral of the story is: It SHOULD work THIS way but might ALSO work THAT way and PERIODICALLY will work the OTHER way.
Problem solved!
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I did some playing around with mine today - here's what I found out:
1. The phone notification and other OS sounds only occur when I am in Media mode (and the volume is up enough). If I switch out of media to radio or something else, I lose the phone sounds altogether (they don't come from the phone or MMI). Which I can see happening because the Entertainment Volume slider controls both music/audio and phone sounds .. So even if the sounds came through on Radio, the music would be too loud to hear them anyway. It seems like the MMI is really missing a separate volume control for phone notifications/sounds other than the ringer itself.
2. I tested various settings - ringer volume in MMI, checked Bluetooth connectivity in MMI (both settings turned on), iphone is set to MMI output, etc.
1. The phone notification and other OS sounds only occur when I am in Media mode (and the volume is up enough). If I switch out of media to radio or something else, I lose the phone sounds altogether (they don't come from the phone or MMI). Which I can see happening because the Entertainment Volume slider controls both music/audio and phone sounds .. So even if the sounds came through on Radio, the music would be too loud to hear them anyway. It seems like the MMI is really missing a separate volume control for phone notifications/sounds other than the ringer itself.
2. I tested various settings - ringer volume in MMI, checked Bluetooth connectivity in MMI (both settings turned on), iphone is set to MMI output, etc.
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I'll give this a shot tonight.