Torque vs.Horsepower - AudiWorld Forums



Q5/SQ5 MKI (8R) Discussion Discussion forum for the First Generation Audi Q5 SUV produced from 2008 to 2017

Torque vs.Horsepower

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-31-2014, 01:15 AM   #1
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
USAVAGEU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 275
Default Torque vs.Horsepower

I've read quite a bit about the 450 ft/ lbs of torque available in the TDI Q5s, and how for the first 30 mph, they can't be beat. My SQ5 is now approaching the 1000 mile mark, so I've been letting the reigns loose a little more lately, and what I find almost breathtaking (apologies for the drama) is the almost constant, rapid acceleration through the gears. To be honest, this is not the type of car I expect to be a beast out of the hole, smoking tires and wreaking havoc on the neighborhood, but somehow the plain quickness of this car has really got me hooked.
Mileage...I just came out of a bad relationship with a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 hemi that I tried to mod to the best of my ability to get some speed out of...and all I accomplished was a 6.75 0-60 time and 9.5 MPG, so, I am very very happy with the 14 mpg so far.
Any discussions?

Last edited by USAVAGEU; 05-31-2014 at 01:21 AM.
USAVAGEU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 07:27 AM   #2
AudiWorld Member
 
big residual's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 139
Default

It's definitely quick... and there's something about the way it's quick that's really satisfying. I can't speak to the TDI, only the TFSI, but driving the car, it really feels like you have all the power you need and the ability to get it on the road effectively. Makes daily driving, dealing with traffic, on-ramps, cross streets a different experience.

It's a fun topic to watch people get torqued about (pun unintended but tolerated) -- a new review cites a 4.8 sec 0-60 time.


I have no idea if it does 4.8 vs. 5.8, but it's a lot faster (and jarring) than the 2012 Jetta GLI I had last. That car supposedly does 5.8, but the SQ is very different experience. Plus it keeps going very hard way past 60.

Now, the first time I went to the gas station after having driven not so many miles... oh well, no such thing as a free lunch. That's where I'd be pretty interested in the TDI version.
big residual is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 08:51 AM   #3
AudiWorld Super User
 
spijun's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sarajevo /BiH
Posts: 3,092
Default

Torque is very important in speeding up, it is best shown by the following:

SQ5 3.0TFSI 354PS / 470Nm 0-100 km/h - 5,3 s
SQ5 3.0TDI 313PS / 650Nm 0-100 km/h - 5,1 s


TDI has 41PS less but has better acceleration

Last edited by spijun; 05-31-2014 at 09:20 AM.
spijun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 09:20 AM   #4
gk1
AudiWorld Super User
 
gk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,521
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spijun View Post
Torque is very important in speeding up, it is best shown by the following:
SQ TDI 313HP 0-100km/h - 5,1s
SQ TFSI 354HP 0-100km/h - 5,3

TDI has 41HP less but has better acceleration
True. What's interesting is the SQ5 TDI is an exceptionally high HP diesel...kind of rare. Having 73HP more than the regular TDI (6.5s) and 125lb-ft more torque than the TFSI SQ5. So no real surprise it is quick. No idea what the gearing is on SQ5 TDI either.
The regular 3.0T Q5 has only 30 more HP than the regular TDI and despite the TDI's 133 lb-ft advantage it is 0.5s slower to 60. I thought the consensus was the TDI's biggest wow factor other than fantastic mileage is the 60-80MPH+ acceleration.
At any rate both are quick...Audi loves torque...and so do I.
gk1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 09:25 AM   #5
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,524
Default

In recent tests, Car & Driver reported:

SQ5: 5.2 0-60 mph and 13.1 0-100 mph
TDI: 5.8 0-60 mph and 17.6 0-100 mph

This is just one publication's reviews, others will vary.
Q5 Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 09:50 AM   #6
AudiWorld Super User
 
spijun's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sarajevo /BiH
Posts: 3,092
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gk1 View Post
True. What's interesting is the SQ5 TDI is an exceptionally high HP diesel...kind of rare. Having 73HP more than the regular TDI (6.5s) and 125lb-ft more torque than the TFSI SQ5. So no real surprise it is quick. No idea what the gearing is on SQ5 TDI either.
The regular 3.0T Q5 has only 30 more HP than the regular TDI and despite the TDI's 133 lb-ft advantage it is 0.5s slower to 60. I thought the consensus was the TDI's biggest wow factor other than fantastic mileage is the 60-80MPH+ acceleration.
At any rate both are quick...Audi loves torque...and so do I.
New a monster TDI 385 PS (283 kW) and 750 Nm coming soon
http://ecomento.com/2014/05/28/audi-...mance-diesels/
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...t-drive-review
http://www.caradvice.com.au/288497/a...esel-rs-model/

Last edited by spijun; 05-31-2014 at 09:53 AM.
spijun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 01:13 PM   #7
AudiWorld Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 213
Default

I find that a high torque engine feels like a more "relaxed" drive; from the standpoint that there are lower shift points and very little "drama". It feels effortless.
acadianbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 02:05 PM   #8
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
koobah's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 669
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Q5 Bob View Post
In recent tests, Car & Driver reported:

SQ5: 5.2 0-60 mph and 13.1 0-100 mph
TDI: 5.8 0-60 mph and 17.6 0-100 mph

This is just one publication's reviews, others will vary.
They were testing standard TDI, not SQ available only in EU
koobah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 08:56 PM   #9
Audiworld Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 67
Default

I really enjoyed the TDI torque matched to the 8 speed on the autobahns during our recent ED. It was nice for the engine to be loaping around 2700 rpm at 120 mph. Amazing when downshifting to get into the fast lane without the hectic drive for rpm. Quite a nice power train combination.
HerrK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 10:39 PM   #10
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
Yoshimura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Montreal, QC
Posts: 634
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Q5 Bob View Post
In recent tests, Car & Driver reported:

TDI: 17.6 0-100 mph
OMG! This is slow...
Yoshimura is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A6 C6 3.2 engine removal for timing chains uble1234 A6 / S6 (C6 Platform) Discussion 3 04-17-2016 04:57 AM
Is this valves hitting after timing belt change Quick Cal 4.2 V8 Discussion 5 10-29-2015 10:25 PM
only 317 torque in the rs5? markN1689 Audi A5 / S5 / RS5 Coupe & Cabrio (B8) 7 10-01-2015 09:07 PM
05 3.2 tranny issues fixmya6 A6 / S6 (C6 Platform) Discussion 4 10-01-2015 03:00 PM
'16 SQ5, first week report! 800 miles... Bruce B Q5/SQ5 MKI (8R) Discussion 5 09-25-2015 01:11 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:47 AM.


 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
What's your question?
Send