How to pick the best dealer. Should I expect any discounts?
02-20-2016, 12:33 PM
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The best way to approach a dealer is not by calling them or walking into a dealership, but by sending an email to every dealer in your area. That way you get in contact with their e-commerce manager. State in your email exactly what you want and ask for their best price. The e-commerce manager deals differently with customers in general. Obviously, there are always exceptions, but in general they know that people coming through the Internet are well researched and you are given less of the BS you are getting from the regular sales guys and more straight forward deals.
Having done European Delivery on an RS5, I learned a lot about the sales process behind RS vehicles. RS vehicles sold through European Delivery are subject to dealer allocation. Regular models are not, so European Delivery is a way for the dealer to sell cars above and beyond their allocation, but selling an RS comes out of their allocation, whether it is EU delivery or not. So, the dealer doesn't have much incentive to do EU delivery on an RS. Many refuse to do it, because it's extra paperwork with nothing in return for the dealer. In addition, RS vehicle are not eligible for additional dealer discounts. No holdbacks etc., so they are much less likely to sell you one much below MSRP.
To do a successful EU delivery on an RS, you have to find a dealer that is willing to do it and believes in the program. Out of the 7 dealers I contacted in my area, only 2 were willing to do it and I picked the one where the GM was personally coming out and sitting down with me to tell me all about how much he believes in the program. My original sales guy left while I was waiting for my car to be produced, so the GM ended up handling the entire transaction personally.
The other 5 dealers I contacted, either didn't respond at all or tried to convince me they had an up to 12 months waiting list and EU delivery was completely out of the question as they could just sell the car to somebody willing to take delivery in the US w/o all the extra paperwork. I don't think they were actually BSing me with all the tech money flying around in this area, there is no shortage of well heeled customers buying luxury vehicles.
BTW, this was back in 2013 when the RS5 just came out and all I was able to negotiate was $3k off MSRP by having the two dealers compete with each other. This included the $1k loyalty discount, though, so it was only $2k off MSRP technically. The second dealer actually was giving me a better deal, but I went with the first dealer, because they had already done EU delivery on several RS vehicles and could also guarantee me an available allocation, whereas the other dealer didn't even have an allocation at the time.
Having done European Delivery on an RS5, I learned a lot about the sales process behind RS vehicles. RS vehicles sold through European Delivery are subject to dealer allocation. Regular models are not, so European Delivery is a way for the dealer to sell cars above and beyond their allocation, but selling an RS comes out of their allocation, whether it is EU delivery or not. So, the dealer doesn't have much incentive to do EU delivery on an RS. Many refuse to do it, because it's extra paperwork with nothing in return for the dealer. In addition, RS vehicle are not eligible for additional dealer discounts. No holdbacks etc., so they are much less likely to sell you one much below MSRP.
To do a successful EU delivery on an RS, you have to find a dealer that is willing to do it and believes in the program. Out of the 7 dealers I contacted in my area, only 2 were willing to do it and I picked the one where the GM was personally coming out and sitting down with me to tell me all about how much he believes in the program. My original sales guy left while I was waiting for my car to be produced, so the GM ended up handling the entire transaction personally.
The other 5 dealers I contacted, either didn't respond at all or tried to convince me they had an up to 12 months waiting list and EU delivery was completely out of the question as they could just sell the car to somebody willing to take delivery in the US w/o all the extra paperwork. I don't think they were actually BSing me with all the tech money flying around in this area, there is no shortage of well heeled customers buying luxury vehicles.
BTW, this was back in 2013 when the RS5 just came out and all I was able to negotiate was $3k off MSRP by having the two dealers compete with each other. This included the $1k loyalty discount, though, so it was only $2k off MSRP technically. The second dealer actually was giving me a better deal, but I went with the first dealer, because they had already done EU delivery on several RS vehicles and could also guarantee me an available allocation, whereas the other dealer didn't even have an allocation at the time.
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02-20-2016, 03:35 PM
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I've had it slightly lowered since these photo's...
02-21-2016, 09:24 AM
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Hello Martz,
Great looking car. The black wheels really accent the car. Did you order the car with Akrapovic exhaust or put on after market? I have them on my C6 ZR1, they sound great.
The EU or ED is where you pick up the car from the factory and you can use it for 90 days in Europe., than you drop it off at one of their locations.
Thanks,
Nelson
Great looking car. The black wheels really accent the car. Did you order the car with Akrapovic exhaust or put on after market? I have them on my C6 ZR1, they sound great.
The EU or ED is where you pick up the car from the factory and you can use it for 90 days in Europe., than you drop it off at one of their locations.
Thanks,
Nelson
02-21-2016, 09:31 AM
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I found a dealer that is willing to do a ED pick up. I have an appointment with him Tuesday. He infromed they do not discount any ED pck ups.
Thanks for the advice. I am able to find better info on this forum than I am with most of the sales people I have talked with.
Nelson
Thanks for the advice. I am able to find better info on this forum than I am with most of the sales people I have talked with.
Nelson
The best way to approach a dealer is not by calling them or walking into a dealership, but by sending an email to every dealer in your area. That way you get in contact with their e-commerce manager. State in your email exactly what you want and ask for their best price. The e-commerce manager deals differently with customers in general. Obviously, there are always exceptions, but in general they know that people coming through the Internet are well researched and you are given less of the BS you are getting from the regular sales guys and more straight forward deals.
Having done European Delivery on an RS5, I learned a lot about the sales process behind RS vehicles. RS vehicles sold through European Delivery are subject to dealer allocation. Regular models are not, so European Delivery is a way for the dealer to sell cars above and beyond their allocation, but selling an RS comes out of their allocation, whether it is EU delivery or not. So, the dealer doesn't have much incentive to do EU delivery on an RS. Many refuse to do it, because it's extra paperwork with nothing in return for the dealer. In addition, RS vehicle are not eligible for additional dealer discounts. No holdbacks etc., so they are much less likely to sell you one much below MSRP.
To do a successful EU delivery on an RS, you have to find a dealer that is willing to do it and believes in the program. Out of the 7 dealers I contacted in my area, only 2 were willing to do it and I picked the one where the GM was personally coming out and sitting down with me to tell me all about how much he believes in the program. My original sales guy left while I was waiting for my car to be produced, so the GM ended up handling the entire transaction personally.
The other 5 dealers I contacted, either didn't respond at all or tried to convince me they had an up to 12 months waiting list and EU delivery was completely out of the question as they could just sell the car to somebody willing to take delivery in the US w/o all the extra paperwork. I don't think they were actually BSing me with all the tech money flying around in this area, there is no shortage of well heeled customers buying luxury vehicles.
BTW, this was back in 2013 when the RS5 just came out and all I was able to negotiate was $3k off MSRP by having the two dealers compete with each other. This included the $1k loyalty discount, though, so it was only $2k off MSRP technically. The second dealer actually was giving me a better deal, but I went with the first dealer, because they had already done EU delivery on several RS vehicles and could also guarantee me an available allocation, whereas the other dealer didn't even have an allocation at the time.
Having done European Delivery on an RS5, I learned a lot about the sales process behind RS vehicles. RS vehicles sold through European Delivery are subject to dealer allocation. Regular models are not, so European Delivery is a way for the dealer to sell cars above and beyond their allocation, but selling an RS comes out of their allocation, whether it is EU delivery or not. So, the dealer doesn't have much incentive to do EU delivery on an RS. Many refuse to do it, because it's extra paperwork with nothing in return for the dealer. In addition, RS vehicle are not eligible for additional dealer discounts. No holdbacks etc., so they are much less likely to sell you one much below MSRP.
To do a successful EU delivery on an RS, you have to find a dealer that is willing to do it and believes in the program. Out of the 7 dealers I contacted in my area, only 2 were willing to do it and I picked the one where the GM was personally coming out and sitting down with me to tell me all about how much he believes in the program. My original sales guy left while I was waiting for my car to be produced, so the GM ended up handling the entire transaction personally.
The other 5 dealers I contacted, either didn't respond at all or tried to convince me they had an up to 12 months waiting list and EU delivery was completely out of the question as they could just sell the car to somebody willing to take delivery in the US w/o all the extra paperwork. I don't think they were actually BSing me with all the tech money flying around in this area, there is no shortage of well heeled customers buying luxury vehicles.
BTW, this was back in 2013 when the RS5 just came out and all I was able to negotiate was $3k off MSRP by having the two dealers compete with each other. This included the $1k loyalty discount, though, so it was only $2k off MSRP technically. The second dealer actually was giving me a better deal, but I went with the first dealer, because they had already done EU delivery on several RS vehicles and could also guarantee me an available allocation, whereas the other dealer didn't even have an allocation at the time.
02-21-2016, 07:52 PM
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Hello Martz,
Great looking car. The black wheels really accent the car. Did you order the car with Akrapovic exhaust or put on after market? I have them on my C6 ZR1, they sound great.
The EU or ED is where you pick up the car from the factory and you can use it for 90 days in Europe., than you drop it off at one of their locations.
Thanks,
Nelson
Great looking car. The black wheels really accent the car. Did you order the car with Akrapovic exhaust or put on after market? I have them on my C6 ZR1, they sound great.
The EU or ED is where you pick up the car from the factory and you can use it for 90 days in Europe., than you drop it off at one of their locations.
Thanks,
Nelson
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02-22-2016, 07:08 AM
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I think you are correct 19hole, I am going to try and get a couple of quotes this week. I never thought it would be so hard to buy a car.
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Nelson
QUOTE=19hole;24779813]Nelson, I think that you will need to order it if you want the Performance option. I doubt that any have made it to showrooms as stock cars.[/QUOTE]
Thanks,
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QUOTE=19hole;24779813]Nelson, I think that you will need to order it if you want the Performance option. I doubt that any have made it to showrooms as stock cars.[/QUOTE]
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Hello Martz,
I placed a down payment on a new 2016 RS7 with the performance package, I am waiting for the comformation for the Europe Pickup as of now. My question to you. Was the roof of your car painted black from the factory or done afterwards? Did you have the glass tinted on your car ? My daughter wants me to change my (ascarti blue) to white like yours.
Thanks,
Nelson
I placed a down payment on a new 2016 RS7 with the performance package, I am waiting for the comformation for the Europe Pickup as of now. My question to you. Was the roof of your car painted black from the factory or done afterwards? Did you have the glass tinted on your car ? My daughter wants me to change my (ascarti blue) to white like yours.
Thanks,
Nelson
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