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Old 05-15-2014, 04:26 AM   #1
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Hello All,

In preparation for my S4's arrival, I wanted to ask a few questions:

1. Since this will be my daily driver, is it worth it to get a clear bra put on it? Please keep in mind that the paint color I have is Glacier White.
2. If you do recommend a clear bra, could you please provide recommendations of ones I should consider purchasing with some links to preferred vendors?
3. Regarding window tint, I plan on running what is legal in Michigan, but is there such a thing as different grades of tint quality (not tint %, actual quality of the tint).

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I have an Ibis White S4 with Xpel Ultimate film covering the full front bumper, partial hood / fenders, door strip, door cups and luggage strip on rear bumper. With a white car, you need to pay particular attention to keeping the film clean and sealed to avoid / clean up yellowing, which is easier to see on white than any other color. I use the Xpel clean or Dawn for cleaning and the Xpel sealer. Xpel comes with a 10 year warranty including warranty coverage for permanent yellowing.

Whether it is worth it or not depends on your driving. This is the fourth car on which I have had PPF installed (other 3 were 3M, which was also a good product) and would not go without it. Most of my driving is high speed turnpike travel, with gravel around from road construction. My last car without it had dozens of chips all over the front of the car.

I don't mind having partial hood and fenders even though doing so leaves a seam. Some seem to positively hate it and cover their entire hood and fenders. I don't care about the seam and find partial coverage most cost effective. I do have 2 chips on the uncovered portion of the hood, but can live with that vs. having them all over the bumper and front portions of the hood and fenders.
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Hello All - I just got a quote for a clear bra and tint and nearly soiled my undergarments, so I need some confirmation if these are in the ballpark.

3M Clear Bra - $963 including labor - hood, fascia, fenders, and mirrors
Tint - $299 - All windows

Please let me know if these prices are reasonable or if I'm being taken to the cleaners. Thank you!
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That's not bad if full hood and fenders. High if partial hood and fenders.

I got Xpel ultimate full bumper, partial hood / fenders, headlights, luggage strip on trunk, door cups and door strips + window tint for about $1,000. Xpel has 10 year warranty and unless they changed it 3M has 5 years. Both are good products.
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That's not bad if full hood and fenders. High if partial hood and fenders.

I got Xpel ultimate full bumper, partial hood / fenders, headlights, luggage strip on trunk, door cups and door strips + window tint for about $1,000. Xpel has 10 year warranty and unless they changed it 3M has 5 years. Both are good products.
Well for the Xpel, I just got quoted the same thing you did ($1,000 for partial + tint). Apparently, it's very expensive to do the full hood and fenders, as that package is $1,700.

Is this a rip off or is it worth it? Please keep in mind, white car driving on a gravel road...
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You could almost pave the road for that cost...

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it more of a concern if you're following a car closely on gravel? Couldn't you augment that risk by simply backing away from the car in front of you? I know that's a simplistic way of looking at it, but it helps limit risk.

In my opinion it's great to have it, but anything over $1K and you've lost me... That kind of scratch buys a lot of goodies. How long are you keeping the car? Is it a drive it until it's dead purchase? If so, that would sway my opinion.
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The tint is paramount though. Do invest in a good shop where others have gone -- one that is familiar with Audis. Avoid frying your amp and causing all kinds of headaches...
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You could almost pave the road for that cost...

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it more of a concern if you're following a car closely on gravel? Couldn't you augment that risk by simply backing away from the car in front of you? I know that's a simplistic way of looking at it, but it helps limit risk.

In my opinion it's great to have it, but anything over $1K and you've lost me... That kind of scratch buys a lot of goodies. How long are you keeping the car? Is it a drive it until it's dead purchase? If so, that would sway my opinion.
Technically no one drives that road except for me and a few other people, so chances of me being behind someone are slim, but still, rocks get flung up on other roads and there is nothing you really can do about it. On top of that, it's Michigan, so there is always road work and debris is always flying up in the air from the cars in front of you.

I just want to about the paint chips in areas where it is most likely to happen. I'm wondering if it may be smart to do the rockers or rear bumper .... I did purchase the Aluoptic package...

By the way - no plan on frying my amp. Relevance??? Just confused lol
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No, I get it... It's really nice, but $1,700 is a lot of dough. I'm sure that you could whittle that down if you make a friend at the dealer?...



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Technically no one drives that road except for me and a few other people, so chances of me being behind someone are slim, but still, rocks get flung up on other roads and there is nothing you really can do about it. On top of that, it's Michigan, so there is always road work and debris is always flying up in the air from the cars in front of you.

I just want to about the paint chips in areas where it is most likely to happen. I'm wondering if it may be smart to do the rockers or rear bumper .... I did purchase the Aluoptic package...

By the way - no plan on frying my amp. Relevance??? Just confused lol
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No, I get it... It's really nice, but $1,700 is a lot of dough. I'm sure that you could whittle that down if you make a friend at the dealer?...
Believe it or not, that was the wittled down price!!!! It was originally $1,950 because of how expensive the big sheets are to do the hood.

By the way - what's with the amplifier comment?
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The amp comment is in regard to the tint. Most shops -- at least the mediocre ones -- use lots of water in the process of tinting. In doing so, they can get the amplifiers wet from water running down the pillars and can fry them. Just make sure you cover the amp with a towel or something else to safeguard it.
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I did the partial hood / fenders and don't think covering full hood / fenders is cost effective. Others will say they hate the line yada yada. Yes, I have a couple of chips above the line on my hood (over 30K miles) that I used touch up paint on - IMO not worth covering full hood and fenders for those. I also have a couple on a door - it's a car so you will get some somewhere unless you cover the entire car, which would be cost prohibitive. The vast majority of the chips occur on front bumper and front portion of hood and fenders. IMO those are well worth covering. My last car without it had dozens (maybe 100+) chips and I'd say 90% were in the area that is protected with partial hood / fenders.
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I did the partial hood / fenders and don't think covering full hood / fenders is cost effective. Others will say they hate the line yada yada. Yes, I have a couple of chips above the line on my hood (over 30K miles) that I used touch up paint on - IMO not worth covering full hood and fenders for those. I also have a couple on a door - it's a car so you will get some somewhere unless you cover the entire car, which would be cost prohibitive. The vast majority of the chips occur on front bumper and front portion of hood and fenders. IMO those are well worth covering. My last car without it had dozens (maybe 100+) chips and I'd say 90% were in the area that is protected with partial hood / fenders.
I take it that his 100+ chip car did not have the protective film, correct?

I'm wondering if it might make sense to do the partial + some coverage on the back bumper from the tires kicking up gravel and scratching the hell out of the paint. Thoughts?
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I think it's safe to say the 100+ chip car did not have the film.

I'd just do the partial and save the money. As Rick pointed out, the vast majority of the damage comes to the front bumper and lower part of the hood anyway. The line is barely visible.
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Yes, the 100+ chip car had no PPF and that was the last car without it.

I think a luggage strip on the back bumper to protect it when putting stuff in the trunk is an inexpensive addition (installer may even throw it in). I haven't had any issues with tires kicking up anything but my chips come from highway driving not gravel road. Have you had issues with tires kicking up gravel on other cars?

The line is barely visible to me on the partial hood / fenders, but as I said in another post, be sure to keep the PPF clean and sealed on a white car. Otherwise, it will yellow from dirt and is tough to clean once contaminated. Not sure about 3M but I know Xpel's warranty covers yellowing as well (film + labor).
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I just have to say that's a rip off. I also think having an Ibis White car is going to be much much better than a black car as far as chips and scratches are concerned. I honestly don't think it'll be THAT noticeable on your car but then again, it's your dough
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Yes, the 100+ chip car had no PPF and that was the last car without it.

I think a luggage strip on the back bumper to protect it when putting stuff in the trunk is an inexpensive addition (installer may even throw it in). I haven't had any issues with tires kicking up anything but my chips come from highway driving not gravel road. Have you had issues with tires kicking up gravel on other cars?

The line is barely visible to me on the partial hood / fenders, but as I said in another post, be sure to keep the PPF clean and sealed on a white car. Otherwise, it will yellow from dirt and is tough to clean once contaminated. Not sure about 3M but I know Xpel's warranty covers yellowing as well (film + labor).
Is your line barely visible using the Xpel material?

On my current cars, I do have paint chips on the back bumpers and those are Jeeps (so they ride much higher). I imagine a vehicle lower to the ground would be chipped even worse.
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On my Ibis S4, I did custom full hood, fenders & front end 4 years ago for $1200 with VentureShield PPF. The newer materials are probably better. Xpel is good also. One some brands of PPF come in large enough rolls. The full hood takes two people. Ventureshield was bought by 3M and is a different product from 3M PPF.

I had a big gravel chunk into the PPF about 1 year ago. I thought the paint was shot, but had the hood PPF redone for $450 with Suntek film. It looks like new, the PPF protected it.

I will do again on the the next car, PPF is great. Be careful about waxing it, only certain waxes are safe. Xpel has a conditioner to use to protect the PPF.

Also check out the Tintdude forum for the inside scoop from installers.
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Is your line barely visible using the Xpel material?

On my current cars, I do have paint chips on the back bumpers and those are Jeeps (so they ride much higher). I imagine a vehicle lower to the ground would be chipped even worse.
Correct, barely visible to my eye and I have done 4 cars with partial hood / fenders. Others will jump up and down and swear they can't live with it and need to cover the entire hood and fenders. Just not worth it to me to spend nearly double for full hood / fenders.

Talk to installer about rear bumper. I think it is far less common than front bumper. Understand your concern just not sure of cost or cost:benefit.
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Also, clearance doesn't matter all that much...between your Jeep and Audi I have to imagine the Jeep would be more prone to kicking up rocks with the tread on the tires. All road tires love them some gravel...

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Correct, barely visible to my eye and I have done 4 cars with partial hood / fenders. Others will jump up and down and swear they can't live with it and need to cover the entire hood and fenders. Just not worth it to me to spend nearly double for full hood / fenders.

Talk to installer about rear bumper. I think it is far less common than front bumper. Understand your concern just not sure of cost or cost:benefit.
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