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Old 02-11-2014, 12:56 PM   #1
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I currently drive a B8 S4 and today I test drove a Volvo V60 T6 that has 325hp to get a feel for the car since Volvo will be sending a few Polestar V60s to the US later this year. Performance wise the Polestar V60 will be on par with the S4. The Volvo was a nice drive and I really like the style of the wagon but I've gotta say that I like my S4 a lot more. I just wish that Audi would sell an S4 Avant in the US.

Have there been any rumblings of selling the S4 Avant in the US anytime soon?
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I currently drive a B8 S4 and today I test drove a Volvo V60 T6 that has 325hp to get a feel for the car since Volvo will be sending a few Polestar V60s to the US later this year. Performance wise the Polestar V60 will be on par with the S4. The Volvo was a nice drive and I really like the style of the wagon but I've gotta say that I like my S4 a lot more. I just wish that Audi would sell an S4 Avant in the US.

Have there been any rumblings of selling the S4 Avant in the US anytime soon?
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:47 PM   #4
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I think Audi would say that they covered that market with the SQ5.
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Only from Avant enthusiasts. Not from Audi. Not gonna happen.
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I currently drive a B8 S4 and today I test drove a Volvo V60 T6 that has 325hp to get a feel for the car since Volvo will be sending a few Polestar V60s to the US later this year. Performance wise the Polestar V60 will be on par with the S4. The Volvo was a nice drive and I really like the style of the wagon but I've gotta say that I like my S4 a lot more. I just wish that Audi would sell an S4 Avant in the US.

Have there been any rumblings of selling the S4 Avant in the US anytime soon?
How does the V60 T6 compare to our car performance wise, must be very close?
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How does the V60 T6 compare to our car performance wise, must be very close?
I actually cross shopped the S60 R Design with that same engine with the S4 and chose the S4. The Volvo was very nice, but the S4 had a much better transmission, was more powerful, and handled better. Add to that that I liked the look of the S4 inside and out over the Volvo and that was the end of the discussion. The Volvo was about $8k cheaper, so that was a consideration, but not enough of one.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:47 AM   #8
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Probably no need (from Audi of America's management and marketing perspective) for an Avant. Something about the lack of market demand -- and, well, they've got the allroad (A4 based) quattro. Of course even with the new 220HP 258 ft/lb of torque engine and 8-speed tiptronic, the allroad can hardly lay claim to being any kind of a rival for the performance of the Volvo (Polestar or no Polestar).

Then again, the SQ5 -- for the US market -- ought to satisfy most "station wagon" liking types, even though it does come to the US with the same ol' Q5 ground clearance (to help Audi with its CAFE ratings).

My wife and I tested cars until I could scream -- and we did like the Volvo station wagon (T6 and Type-R variants). No Polestar version was available. I would say I considered the Volvo to be in the top 3. My (and I guess my wife's) top 3 would have to come down to the Audi SQ5, BMW X3 (with the 300HP turbo engine) and the Volvo XC60 T6 Type-R -- in that order. Sure the Porsche was "the better man (or woman)", but it cost some 50% more than the $60,000+ SQ5. The Jeep Grand SRT8 was -- mm "interesting" and actually very powerful, but overall it wasn't quite up to the refinement offered by the Europeans. The Infiniti FX37 (now called QX70, I believe) earned an honorable mention (from me), but my wife said "it ain't got no soul."

She's right, of course.

But the Infiniti made me feel like I was driving The Hulk (in a good way, entirely) -- get outta my way, "puny god"!

Drove but didn't even consider an X6 and ZDX -- believe it or not, some similarities despite the fact that the Acura was, well, "FUGLY."

Apparently the demand for Audi Avants in the US just doesn't justify the expense of certifying them (Federalizing them) for our citizens. The RS6 Avant ought to be the exception -- of course I say this since I would not have imagined any demand to speak of for a $110,000 RS7 either.

But I was wrong.

If you don't want a sedan (S4) and you do want a very nice performance oriented "station wagon" -- the XC60 Type-R should not be discounted. It's a very nice machine that will not be mistaken for a CUV -- and even the mighty SQ5 can't say that.

BTW - we liked the Audis so much we bought two:

1 2014 S4 (Premium+) with the DSG transmission, MMI+, Lava Red Sport Seats, B&O Sound System, Blind Spot monitoring (Audi Side Assist) and Carbon Fibre trim; and,

1 2014 SQ5 (Prestige) with damn near everything on it -- but with the aluminum trim (no upgrade to that, for god knows what reason: oversight on my wife's part?) and the lava red seat option.

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The Porsche Macan S is the same price as an SQ5 and has a real DCT, looks better, has a better interior, etc.

So why not that?
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The Porsche Macan S is the same price as an SQ5 and has a real DCT, looks better, has a better interior, etc.

So why not that?
Starting adding options to a Porsche. The Macan is only the same price before the hurting starts.
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I did. It is the same price as the SQ5 with options.
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You know, that is a really good question. We looked at the Cayenne while we were at the Porsche dealer (which also happens to be a Volvo dealer).

When did the Macan come to market?

If it was available when we were in test driving mode, we did indeed make a notable oversight.
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Well, if you attempt to option them out similarly, the Porsche IS more expensive, but only about 5% (about $3K), assuming the S would be comparable to the SQ5 -- which it certainly seems to be.

Shhh, don't tell my wife we didn't drive something.

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Agreed the Porsche is $3,000 more. Like $61 vs $58.
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Agreed the Porsche is $3,000 more. Like $61 vs $58.
And a decent Ceyanne S is 50% more than that.
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Starting adding options to a Porsche. The Macan is only the same price before the hurting starts.

Actually, this time has a pretty good list of standard features on the Macan S. It's a compelling choice. Demand is very high, though, so it will be a while before anyone new can actually get one.
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You know, that is a really good question. We looked at the Cayenne while we were at the Porsche dealer (which also happens to be a Volvo dealer).

When did the Macan come to market?

If it was available when we were in test driving mode, we did indeed make a notable oversight.
Macan has just started to release overseas; I saw a few were hitting the streets in Dubai. They may arrive in the US in a month or two, and the moment they do is the moment I go talk to the local Porsche shop about ditching my S4 for one. My ideal build comes in at $73K.

I've read that demand is so high that the entire first year's production has been sold before the first one even came out of assembly. People will be lucky to pay a penny less than full MSRP for awhile.
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What can I get first, a B9 S4 or a Macan?

Do we believe the Macan solves the US SQ5 problem of being too high?
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What can I get first, a B9 S4 or a Macan?

Do we believe the Macan solves the US SQ5 problem of being too high?
I don't know the answers to your two questions but I have not read one single review that didn't say the Macan was the holy grail of crossover suvs. Every. Single. Review. Usually there is some room for debate but in this case every journalist who has driven one said it's the ****.
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I have an Odessey Touring, a Seqoia, and a Focus Titanium and want to get down to two nicer cars.

My wife insists we get a 2016 Odessy and wants an AWD for snow and likes the Focus for trips to the city.

I am jonesing for something and my wife is fine with me buying another car but wants to keep what we have or at least the capability of what we have. I think four cars for a two-car garage is nuts. She said just but another house with a 3+ car garage but that is a lot of work to find something better.

The Cayman S is the only thing under $100,000 that I emotionally am attracted to. But it seems so impractical with three kids. But then again we have other cars. So I may impulse buy one. But not sure if I will regret it due to not choosing to drive it much.

I got tired of our STi and didn't pick it much, but I attribute that to the juvenile styling, excessive noise, and horrifically aweful stereo.

The Cayman doesn't have those issues. So maybe I would use it any time there were just 1-2 people and no snow.
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