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Old 04-29-2014, 01:19 PM   #1
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I had put some thought into it before I pulled the trigger on a 2014 S4 but was tempted to go with something new such as an AMG. When it came down to it, the "feel" of the Audi brought me to the realization I couldn't go wrong with the S4. I did own a B7 platform S4 but what a different beast this one is. I think I prefer the newer style and engine. I used to be a purist who preferred rowing the gears but I do love the S-tronic and use the paddles almost exclusively. That's actually what led to my decision to buy an A3 back when they first rolled out.
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I had put some thought into it before I pulled the trigger on a 2014 S4 but was tempted to go with something new such as an AMG. When it came down to it, the "feel" of the Audi brought me to the realization I couldn't go wrong with the S4. I did own a B7 platform S4 but what a different beast this one is. I think I prefer the newer style and engine. I used to be a purist who preferred rowing the gears but I do love the S-tronic and use the paddles almost exclusively. That's actually what led to my decision to buy an A3 back when they first rolled out.
Subaru WRX Sti. couldn't accept the boy racer huge rear wing and they no longer make a WRX Sti station wagon.

BMW 335xi Msport. Performance lacking. BMWs don't look good to me nowadays. Nearest dealer is 3.5 hours away. Audi dealer is 25 minutes away.

got the manual transmission and love it. My wife will not drive anything but a stick. Test drove an Audi with double clutch transmission and it upshifted on its own. Asked the salesman why. His answer: to save gas. How does the car know if you are about to pass someone or about to encounter a steep hill?

Test drove an S4 with DCT. Was not nearly as much fun to drive.

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That's interesting about the S-tronic. I never use S-tronic/DSG in auto mode as I always manually shift in order to control when it upshifts/downshifts.
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I always drove larger cars before the S4 and was all over the board:

1) Considered another A6 but wasn't crazy about the C7 vs. my C6 and huge price jump
2) Looked at A7. See 1) above + $9,000
3) Infiniti M56 - just couldn't love it
4) CPO Panamera 4S - loved it but not the price for a used car
5) BMW 550 - liked it, didn't love it and have been looking at 5 series since 1998 without buying one; always a runner up
6) Jaguar XFR - never got that serious because they wouldn't let me drive it without running filling out a credit application

Neither the S6 nor the RS5 were available when I got my S4 but if they were I'd probably add them to the list. In the end, the S4 was the best combination of sport, luxury and price. Very happy with it.

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2013 models, only considering AWD:
1- Infiniti G37x or M56x
2- MB C350
3- Volvo S60 R-Design
4- Ford Taurus SHO
5- Lincoln MKZ (I swear I'm not 65 years old... I was interested in it when the 2013 details first started coming out. It didn't deliver though.)
6- Lexus GS350 (came close on this one.. they just had nothing in stock and Audi dealer across the street...)
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Old 04-29-2014, 05:23 PM   #6
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None. S4 was/is far superior to 335i coupe that I had been driving. even though I really liked the 335i. So after 42 months driving a leased S4, I could not find anything out there in the same price range that I liked any better. I then leased another S4 with a few more options and I an completely happy with my decision. THIS IS A GREAT CAR!
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Had to be 6MT and AWD. So in no particular order:

1. BMW 335xi (AWD not as good and just not a fan of owning a BMW)
2. Subaru WRX STi (wanted a better interior and something less boy racer)
3. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (similar to the STi)
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Vehicles considered in 2010;

BMW 135i/335i - does not have AWD & the my right leg hits the transmission tunnel.
MB AMG C63 - does not have AWD & the EPA sticker MPG was bit shocking
Porsche Cayman - not practical to carry anything.
Subaru STI - kind of ugly & freeway mileage is poor (MT only?)
Nissan G35 - not enough power
Audi A4 - not enough power
Audi A3 - not enough power
Mitsubishi Evo MR - kind of cheesy looking, poor freeway mileage
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traded 2012 evo mr for 2014 s4, also looked at bmw m235i. s4 seems like the complete package that really satisfies.
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In no particular order....

Subaru STI WRX (Couldn't get past the styling)
BMW M3 (Lacked spare tire, Preferred the steering feel of my e36 M)
Mercedes C63 (No manual transmission)

Ended up keeping my '99 e36 M and got a 2013 S4 with manual transmission
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C63 AMG -- Nice car. Loved the power, the noise, THE SEATS!! I wished Audi would get a little more aggressive with their side bolsters. Found myself really close to getting this car, even joining a MB forum. Luckily I did, I found too many customers with tire wear issues in the rear and uncomfortable winter driving. Winters in Canada are super long and the plows are infrequent. Glad I hopped out of this decision.

Used B7 RS4 -- Great car. Love the look of the flared fenders, the sound of that V8! Oh my!! That heavy engine in the front, plus the AWD, you can really feel the car biting and gripping in slow corners. Great feel. However, I was a little unsettled about spending $36,000 on a used RS4. As clean as the records seemed on some, I was a little unsettled about how the car was treated before me. Also, owning a German car out of warranty didn't sit well with me. So, it made more sense, to me anyway, to spend roughly the same on leasing a brand new S4. After test driving the S4, I didn't notice any performance gaps, but LOVED the drive select and Sport Diff. Was a no brainer.


And, honestly speaking, DrGP made this comment in another thread while I was test driving cars, so I didn't even bother heading to BMW. Thanks DrGP

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I have just started week 2 with my new S4, so my choice was pretty clear, but I have been wondering if anybody has looked at an A6 s-Line with the 3.0 Biturbo diesel (engine from the SQ5) as an alternative? For a while I thought this may be an interesting, if not slightly odd, alternative, but having driven that engine in the SQ5 it is quite something, and if the suspension set up in the S-Line A6 is attractive enough this car could be interesting (though the cabin is a little too "luxury" in my book....very much prefer the S4 sportier ambience). Just wondering.
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Subaru WRX Sti. couldn't accept the boy racer huge rear wing and they no longer make a WRX Sti station wagon.

BMW 335xi Msport. Performance lacking. BMWs don't look good to me nowadays. Nearest dealer is 3.5 hours away. Audi dealer is 25 minutes away.

got the manual transmission and love it. My wife will not drive anything but a stick. Test drove an Audi with double clutch transmission and it upshifted on its own. Asked the salesman why. His answer: to save gas. How does the car know if you are about to pass someone or about to encounter a steep hill?

Test drove an S4 with DCT. Was not nearly as much fun to drive.

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Should add we seriously looked at an S5. Looks better than the S4. but we decided the practicality of a 4 door so our aging friends (like ourselves) could easily get in and out...plus the storage with the rear seats down is more accessible and user freindly. thus, practicality won out over looks!

(in my younger days I would have gotten the S5 no question and put up with having a winter set of tires and a summer set. S4 has all season radials as an option...lots less hassle.)

We also looked at and drove the SQ5. It was not as much fun to drive, not as peppy and not as good in the twisties. And why we need two SUVs is beyond me.

S4 seems to be a perfect car for us.

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Your comments about the SQ5 engine not being as peppy is interesting, pretty much my experience (I guess a petrol/diesel thing) - but what did you think about the general power delivery? I was rather taken by the brute power of it, but in that SQ5 body and with the slightly less responsive feel i just thought the v6 Supercharged felt a lot more nimble.
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Isn't the SQ5 a helluva lot heavier? I would imagine that has a major impact not to mention the body roll. Any addition HP gains with the SQ5 engine is rendered negligible with that big and heavy body.
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Indeed. It doesn't do a bad job, but it is still an SUV. It would have benefited from quattro GmbH having a hand in suspension setup. But I think that the engine, aside from the hulking body, is also a little less "peppy" which I think is diesel characteristic, and i wonder what an A6 would felt like if you A/B tested the v6 supercharged petrol and the diesel bi turbo as both engines are in the A6 range.
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I looked at the following

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Infiniti G37x
Lexus IS350
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Indeed. It doesn't do a bad job, but it is still an SUV. It would have benefited from quattro GmbH having a hand in suspension setup. But I think that the engine, aside from the hulking body, is also a little less "peppy" which I think is diesel characteristic, and i wonder what an A6 would felt like if you A/B tested the v6 supercharged petrol and the diesel bi turbo as both engines are in the A6 range.
The SQ5 in the U.S. is petrol only and weighs at least 10% more than an S4. It also has a (very good) 8-speed automatic rather than the dual clutch of an S4. These factors, combined with shape and higher ground clearance, provide a different driving experience than an S4. I test drove one and think it is a great SUV but if I were to get one it would be to replace my wife's Q5 2.0T not my S4.

As far as speed / responsiveness, in a straight line I don't feel the SQ5 is that far behind an S4 and feel it is ahead of an A6 3.0 (all petrol). Once curves comes, the S4 stands apart from the SQ5 for the points above.
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