Onebad S4

And why? I know the giac is better for tweaking, but what about just for drivability and reliabilty?

SoSlow

giac will allow you to go full stage 3 with fueling, apr will leave you at stage garbage

Jason Sowers(rs6's)

2nd a lot of hb cars run the giac x software. I ran it for a little while.

Onebad S4

I have a Apr box already, has stock, V5 93, and race. I just picked up flashed Giac X box, for 375shipped, which is hookup. I bought it because i know its good for tweaking ko4s slighty, as i know im not going to be able to afford fueling when my turbos go. As far as i know, my turbos have 150k on them, so i like that the Apr is easier on them. But id like to sell the my original Apr box to make my money back, but don't want the giac X to kill my turbos till i get ko4s in. Sorry for the rambling, 3:30am post are rough.

When i get ko4s in, the giac X will be nice to put a mbc on. I know the Apr software doesn't like it.

Jason Sowers(rs6's)

I ran the dog **** out of my car when I was stage 2+. You might get lucky and they will never blow.

Tifosi

that you also need or knows someone that knows what they are doing. Do a search and you will see this is well docuemented.

If you don't, you are better off with APR.

Onebad S4

Well i wouldn't be doing any hardcore tweaking. Most i would do it throw a mbc on and cap spikes.