frank

if AWE didn't SELL it

I would think that, all your "test" chips would be carefully monitored..as in, you know who the hell has it

elCheng

i'll tell you in #AW tomorrow.

frank

and that comment was spot on

this chip and at LEAST one other, were sold on the open market

it didn't magically get from AWE..to cheng

Ebay or not

do YOU, know for a fact?
that more of these, aren't in peoples cars unbeknowst them?

NO and neither do I (nor does AWE apparently)

and that is why I feel, the way I do

I have ZERO problems with my post

frank

"denial, is not just a river in egypt"

bTW that car never pinged...I was there

it jsut drove like crap..no RACE mode should respond like that..DBW is going crazy

it overshoots boost by 500 mbar..WTF?

what a Bunch of BS

katana

I said don't blame GIAC for this. They developed a test chip at a customer's request. AWE facilitated this by providing this chip to the customer. We don't know if this was sold or given for free with the caveat it was test. No one disputes it came from AWE, but Cheng didn't get it from AWE, he got it from eBay. Whoever got it from AWE either put it on eBay, or someone got it from the original owner and put it on eBay. Either way it is not GIAC's or AWE's fault. Somebody sold a chip they shouldn't have, and Cheng used a chip of unknown origin with an unknown part number.

frank

it does it in EVERY car, you put it in..not a mechanical problem

frank

and is worse than stock

frank

the AW classifieds?

hmmm?

S4MadMan

Hey come on Gals/Guys, a few more views and this thread will have over 1,000 views. =)

AbnormallyAspirated

It's throwing out the baby with the bathwater for AWE to say they won't provide experimental programs.

The issue here is that the experimental program was confused with (or deceptively misrepresented by the ebay seller as) a standard progam. The solution is obvious. Label them differently.

Maybe even make a bigger label with a disclaimer.