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Old 01-28-2017, 04:55 AM
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I agree with the V6 vs V8, but what I'm saying is that the current V6 isn't getting it done in my book. V6 with 333hp on this big of a car, feels like any old Camry, Accord, Passat automobile.


I agree, most of the V6 engines have conservative output. One of my big attractions to the S6 is that it's unique/rare, and a sleeper. Having a V8 certainly separates it from the mainstream, and it's clear that having a V8 in the future is going to be rare as well. One other undeniable is the sound the V8 creates. I never really rate the "sound" of my car that high on things that I love, but I have to admit I forgot how distinct those V8's sound. There's little doubt that the cars got a monster under the hood right from the start up sound.
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Originally Posted by Agelai
I agree with the V6 vs V8, but what I'm saying is that the current V6 isn't getting it done in my book. V6 with 333hp on this big of a car, feels like any old Camry, Accord, Passat automobile.
I'm in 100% agreement with that. But if Audi can get the V6 up to 400hp and weight down to 4000 pounds, I'd be good.
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It will be over 400 hp. Let's hope that it's conservatively rated like the current engine (which is calculated to produce around 480 hp). The next platform will be lighter in any case, so any engine weight savings will just be icing on the cake.
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Ahh... Dropping 2 Cylinders is going to drop over 500 lbs? I literally know nothing about engine design, and that sounds like it's not possible?
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But add on a supercharger or twin turbos, and it adds that weight back on.
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Since they both have twin turbos, that's not going to make the difference. The savings is mostly in the block and head (each reduced approx. 25%) plus a little for ancillaries (injectors, plugs, leads, etc.). Figure around 150-200 lbs savings for a similarly-designed V6.
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Right, makes sense. I like all engine configurations, but do prefer and engine that doesn't sound like it needs to redline to make any power.
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Originally Posted by DeerHunter
Since they both have twin turbos, that's not going to make the difference. The savings is mostly in the block and head (each reduced approx. 25%) plus a little for ancillaries (injectors, plugs, leads, etc.). Figure around 150-200 lbs savings for a similarly-designed V6.


Yea so I'm thinking 100 or even 200 lbs. Is not a significant weight savings. It was alluded to, that it was going to be a great thing to have a 6 cyl, because the car was going to be weighing in at under 4000 lbs. And it was going to make the car so much more "nimble" and handling and was going to be so much better, etc.


I guess I'll go on the record saying it's going to plain and simple SUCK if the future S6's are going to be V6's, there's no upside to a V6, period.(for someone interested in a car like the S6)
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I agree. I wouldn't buy another one. For $85k, and a V6... I can think of 10 other cars to buy.

Like a Maserati being one of them.
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The weight difference between Audi's 6- and 8-cylinder engines is closer to 300 pounds. And that's huge (imo). More important, Audis are born fighting the front weight bias of its cars because engines are mounted ahead of the front axel (to accommodate the base FWD models). So not only is there significant extra weight, but it's in exactly the wrong place.

But none of this matters if you're interested in straight line acceleration. Go for a V8, 10 or 12 for that. But for some drivers (like me), that only gets you so far (about 4 seconds to be more exact). I'd rather a better handling car that I can take out on the twistys and have fun all day. I keep quoting Porsche's philosophy - no amount of power can overcome excess weight.


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