Cautionary note about variable redline
#11
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^^^ My philosophy is a little different: The metal bits, which expand at different rates, are still stabilizing, even when the coolant is long up to temp. I figure if the oil is still getting warmer, the block (which can hardly have a worse heat capacity) is too. Hence, no fun until the oil is warm (85-95C, depending upon ambient temps).
#12
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It's possible that the metallurgy and machining of todays engines allow "zero wear" (from a perspective of mis-matched piston to bore sizing) at a block temperature of 60C. Knowing the little I do about metals and temp-related expansion, I doubt it. I think Audi is pandering to the way most owners drive, with the resulting wear causing some oil usage and reduced service life - luckily (for the manufacturer), the former is usually not warrantied and the latter occurring well beyond the warranty period.
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Has anyone ever hit the reduced variable redline while the lights are lit? Does it actually cut throttle like the full redline should?
#14
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I asked that question some time ago and someone chimed in that it does, with the authority of someone who's tried it. For the reasons noted above, I'll never purposely put it to the test.
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I tend toward DeerHunter's mindset as well. Superswiss makes an excellent point about being sure to get oil up to temp - I just think that's best done with more moderate throttle and loads. I'm not the one to tell*, but I suspect even light throttle will get oil up to temp pretty quickly in most cases.
Definitely get the engine warmed up and then Katie-bar-the-door
*I'm told that I don't understand the meaning of "light throttle"
Definitely get the engine warmed up and then Katie-bar-the-door
*I'm told that I don't understand the meaning of "light throttle"
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It's possible that the metallurgy and machining of todays engines allow "zero wear" (from a perspective of mis-matched piston to bore sizing) at a block temperature of 60C. Knowing the little I do about metals and temp-related expansion, I doubt it. I think Audi is pandering to the way most owners drive, with the resulting wear causing some oil usage and reduced service life - luckily (for the manufacturer), the former is usually not warrantied and the latter occurring well beyond the warranty period.
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I think the other item to consider is the temperature of the DSG. I've had vehicles in the past with a transmission fluid temperature gauge in the dash and the transmissions have always taken much longer to warm up than the engine oil.
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That's a good point. I'm always cringe when someone "warms up" their car in the driveway and then rockets away at full throttle. The engine may be warm, but the tranny, differential, wheel bearings, etc, sure ain't.
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