2004 Audi A8L not starting!
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2004 Audi A8L not starting!
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I am at a loss as to what is wrong. This morning I went to my wife's A8L and it appears that the rear cabin lights were left on all night. Put in the key and turn to start the engine and nothing. No lights to the center console.
I tried using a "brick" style battery charger that plugs into the cigarette lighter and followed the instructions (leave plugged in for 45 minutes). Turned the key and still nothing.
I tried to jump start the car and still nothing. I left the "donor" car running for about 15 minutes or so. Still nothing.
I bought a new battery and a volt-meter to test the old battery.
Before I installed the new battery, I checked both batteries with the volt meter and both were around 12.5 volts. Weird. The "old" battery registered 12.5 volts but the car would not start.
I checked fuses in all three fuse boxes (at least the ones that seemed to make sense to be a possible cause to the problem and all fuses were good.
The connections to the "old" battery are solid and there is no corrosion around the terminal. The battery is probably 5 years old or so, but has not given my wife any issues until today.
Any thoughts on what might be going on with the car? I just can't think of what it might be. Thanks much.
Lane
I am at a loss as to what is wrong. This morning I went to my wife's A8L and it appears that the rear cabin lights were left on all night. Put in the key and turn to start the engine and nothing. No lights to the center console.
I tried using a "brick" style battery charger that plugs into the cigarette lighter and followed the instructions (leave plugged in for 45 minutes). Turned the key and still nothing.
I tried to jump start the car and still nothing. I left the "donor" car running for about 15 minutes or so. Still nothing.
I bought a new battery and a volt-meter to test the old battery.
Before I installed the new battery, I checked both batteries with the volt meter and both were around 12.5 volts. Weird. The "old" battery registered 12.5 volts but the car would not start.
I checked fuses in all three fuse boxes (at least the ones that seemed to make sense to be a possible cause to the problem and all fuses were good.
The connections to the "old" battery are solid and there is no corrosion around the terminal. The battery is probably 5 years old or so, but has not given my wife any issues until today.
Any thoughts on what might be going on with the car? I just can't think of what it might be. Thanks much.
Lane
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Bad batteries can read normal voltages until you place them under load. Did you regain any of the interior lights with the effort to charge it? Did you follow the jumping instructions carefully? Improper jumping of this car can damage it, you aren't supposed to try to start it with anything still hooked up to the battery, nor are you supposed to use any quick charge methods. I don't know if the cigarette lighter style chargers would work in an A8. You may have blown the big fuse trying to jump start it, it's connected to the positive terminal in a black box, if I recall it's a 60 amp fuse.
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Thanks. I will check the 60 amp fuse.
When jump starting, I connected the terminals in the correct order and used the negative "post" above the battery and not the negative battery terminal. I did try to start the Audi while the battery was still connected to the battering of the "donor" car while it was running (also I got no response when I turned the key).
When jump starting, I connected the terminals in the correct order and used the negative "post" above the battery and not the negative battery terminal. I did try to start the Audi while the battery was still connected to the battering of the "donor" car while it was running (also I got no response when I turned the key).
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I am trying to locate the big fuse, but I am having difficulty (I have not worked near the battery on this car before). There is a black box that sits on the front (towards the trunk space) that is on the left side of the battery (sort of in front of the negative terminal). One of the leads from the positive terminal goes into this box. I opened the box and there seems to be a "connector" behind a black covering with a "clip" on both ends that appear to hold it in place. I tried to gently push the clips aside and remove this black cover, but could not grip it enough. I did not want to force it, just in case it was not supposed to be removed without a tool, etc.
Can you tell me about where I can find the big fuse? Thanks, again.
Can you tell me about where I can find the big fuse? Thanks, again.
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One more thing ...
If I insert the key and try to turn the headlights on, the dash lights come on and the door buzzer will sound, but the headlights will ignite.
If I insert the key and try to turn the headlights on, the dash lights come on and the door buzzer will sound, but the headlights will ignite.
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I have seen batteries be good in the morning, and by afternoon they were bad. All it takes is a bit of plate material to flake off and short out a single plate. I have had that happen to two die hard batteries. I will never buy another battery from Sears.
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I am trying to locate the big fuse, but I am having difficulty (I have not worked near the battery on this car before). There is a black box that sits on the front (towards the trunk space) that is on the left side of the battery (sort of in front of the negative terminal). One of the leads from the positive terminal goes into this box. I opened the box and there seems to be a "connector" behind a black covering with a "clip" on both ends that appear to hold it in place. I tried to gently push the clips aside and remove this black cover, but could not grip it enough. I did not want to force it, just in case it was not supposed to be removed without a tool, etc.
Can you tell me about where I can find the big fuse? Thanks, again.
Can you tell me about where I can find the big fuse? Thanks, again.
FWIW though, 60A fuse has more to do with things like MMI not working. I'm not familiar with it relating to starting car. For OP, you are starting it with a key in the ignition, correct? (as in, not push button start). With a fresh battery it really should turn over unless something else is wrong. For charging, cigarette lighter type charger sounds pretty amemic. Big car, big draws, big battery = better charger.
And yes, one drain down on an older battery and that can be it in pretty short order.
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Thanks to everyone for all the comments. You are all very helpful.